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You will notice some posts below that relate to various topics of discussion by our online community of preachers.
One of the purposes of Preachers' Meeting is to provide a place for young ministers or those recently called to preach to interact around the principles in a course of study recommended by our local group of preachers in the Southern Illinois area.
We invite you to look in on our conversations. If you would like to add comments as a guest, you are welcome to do so.
If this looks interesting to you, you may join us as we start a new session. You can look in the side bar (or sometimes it is moved to right below this post) to see the weekly requirements. We start new courses every 8 or 9 weeks. As already mentioned, you are welcome to comment as a guest before that time.
Below these posts, you will see the word, "comments." Just click on it, and you will see a box on the right side of the screen where you may add your comments.
Look around. Enjoy yourself, and come back often!
You will notice some posts below that relate to various topics of discussion by our online community of preachers.
One of the purposes of Preachers' Meeting is to provide a place for young ministers or those recently called to preach to interact around the principles in a course of study recommended by our local group of preachers in the Southern Illinois area.
We invite you to look in on our conversations. If you would like to add comments as a guest, you are welcome to do so.
If this looks interesting to you, you may join us as we start a new session. You can look in the side bar (or sometimes it is moved to right below this post) to see the weekly requirements. We start new courses every 8 or 9 weeks. As already mentioned, you are welcome to comment as a guest before that time.
Below these posts, you will see the word, "comments." Just click on it, and you will see a box on the right side of the screen where you may add your comments.
Look around. Enjoy yourself, and come back often!
Weekly Requirements
Here is a review of the general requirements for each week.
You have three assignments each week
(1) Make at least two initial posts in your posting area. The first one will be the name of the course, and the names (or numbers of the DVD's) of the chapters or lectures you will be covering during the week. The second one will be a comment on one of those chapters. You will receive one point for getting the first post in on Tuesday or Wednesday. You will also get a point for getting at least one more initial post in.
(2) Go to your fellow student's posting areas, and ask them a question or make comments about their intial posts. You will recieve one point for completing this assignment before 12:00 a.m. on Friday morning (that would be before midnight on Thursday).
(3) Answer the questions asked.
(4) On Fridays, I will also give directions for making remaining posts during the week. Be sure and read those, and take them into account when making at least one of your remaining posts.
In all, we want to make at least nine posts during the week. You will receive points for that as follows:
9 or more posts - 12 points
6-8 posts - 10 points
3-5 posts - 6 points
1-2 posts - 3 points
You will have the extra points you had accumulated by getting things in on time. Those are bonus points that will be used only to move your grade closer to 100 if you need them. They will be awarded each week if needed to move your grade up to 12 for the week. If you do not need them for that week, they will be carried over to the next week(s). Remember the posts that count for points will be at least three sentences long.
You have three assignments each week
(1) Make at least two initial posts in your posting area. The first one will be the name of the course, and the names (or numbers of the DVD's) of the chapters or lectures you will be covering during the week. The second one will be a comment on one of those chapters. You will receive one point for getting the first post in on Tuesday or Wednesday. You will also get a point for getting at least one more initial post in.
(2) Go to your fellow student's posting areas, and ask them a question or make comments about their intial posts. You will recieve one point for completing this assignment before 12:00 a.m. on Friday morning (that would be before midnight on Thursday).
(3) Answer the questions asked.
(4) On Fridays, I will also give directions for making remaining posts during the week. Be sure and read those, and take them into account when making at least one of your remaining posts.
In all, we want to make at least nine posts during the week. You will receive points for that as follows:
9 or more posts - 12 points
6-8 posts - 10 points
3-5 posts - 6 points
1-2 posts - 3 points
You will have the extra points you had accumulated by getting things in on time. Those are bonus points that will be used only to move your grade closer to 100 if you need them. They will be awarded each week if needed to move your grade up to 12 for the week. If you do not need them for that week, they will be carried over to the next week(s). Remember the posts that count for points will be at least three sentences long.
Thoughts on Application
Roger gave some good thoughts on application:
"Chapter 75, titled: 'Apply Within' is a lesson in application. The writer explains why it is sometimes difficult applying a sermon to real life situations. I will list some of the reasons application is not applied to our lives.
"First it is "hard work", it is hard to find application to every situation in the congregation,
"second, is wrong assumptions, assuming the audience is able to apply any and all biblical truths is totally a wrong assumption,
"third, is fear, fear of being to deep or to simplistic in the text and failing at application, and then there is training or lack thereof,
"many preachers know the text, and the history and the order of things but are totally untrained in application. One gentleman said it this way," how can you be a good football player when you can pass the ball, or when you can kick the ball, or when you can run with the ball but you don't know the rules of the game."
"Chapter 75, titled: 'Apply Within' is a lesson in application. The writer explains why it is sometimes difficult applying a sermon to real life situations. I will list some of the reasons application is not applied to our lives.
"First it is "hard work", it is hard to find application to every situation in the congregation,
"second, is wrong assumptions, assuming the audience is able to apply any and all biblical truths is totally a wrong assumption,
"third, is fear, fear of being to deep or to simplistic in the text and failing at application, and then there is training or lack thereof,
"many preachers know the text, and the history and the order of things but are totally untrained in application. One gentleman said it this way," how can you be a good football player when you can pass the ball, or when you can kick the ball, or when you can run with the ball but you don't know the rules of the game."
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Marriage Seminar
If you live in the souther Illinois area, we would like to invite you to a Couples' Marriage Enrichment Seminar on Saturday, February 27. It starts at 6:00 p.m and will run to 9:00 p.m.
After the welcome, there will be a dinner. Then there will be an opening session, followed by two breakout sessions, then a short closing.
The Keynote Speaker is Dr. Randy Carney (That's me :)!) and Roger and Janet Dutton will be speaking during the breakout sessions (That's Roger, who is commenting on this blog during this term!). Randy and Rhonda (my wife!) Carney will also have a breakout session discussing "Keys to Marital Bliss."
The Keynote Address will be on the topic of "The Way to a Successful Marriage: The Shocking and Surprising Truth."
Roger and Janet will be talking about "Hope for Restoring your marriage."
The cost is $15.00 per couple and that includes a dinner and all seminar materials. A nursery and childcare will be available. (Please indicate that you need these services when you register.) A book table with resources from Handfuls on Purpose Christian Bookstore will be available.
The seminar is for couples of all ages, ranging from newlyweds to marriage veterans!
To register, call 618-627-2228 to let the church know how may will be attending. Payment can be made at the event. (Make checks to TFBC.) For more information, call the church at 618-627-2228.
After the welcome, there will be a dinner. Then there will be an opening session, followed by two breakout sessions, then a short closing.
The Keynote Speaker is Dr. Randy Carney (That's me :)!) and Roger and Janet Dutton will be speaking during the breakout sessions (That's Roger, who is commenting on this blog during this term!). Randy and Rhonda (my wife!) Carney will also have a breakout session discussing "Keys to Marital Bliss."
The Keynote Address will be on the topic of "The Way to a Successful Marriage: The Shocking and Surprising Truth."
Roger and Janet will be talking about "Hope for Restoring your marriage."
The cost is $15.00 per couple and that includes a dinner and all seminar materials. A nursery and childcare will be available. (Please indicate that you need these services when you register.) A book table with resources from Handfuls on Purpose Christian Bookstore will be available.
The seminar is for couples of all ages, ranging from newlyweds to marriage veterans!
To register, call 618-627-2228 to let the church know how may will be attending. Payment can be made at the event. (Make checks to TFBC.) For more information, call the church at 618-627-2228.
The Greatest Love
Since Valentine's Day falls on Sunday this year, I imagine there will be a ton of sermons going out on the topic of love.
Paul talked about love and respect in marriage (Ephesians 5), but he was really saying that that was an illustration of the relationship between Christ and the church.
Christ
Left Heaven to come to this earth.
He
Overcame adversity while here. He even conquered death!
He
Valued mankind so much that He gave Himself on the cross.
He desires fellowship with us. He reconciled the world to Himself, so that people could have an
Intimate realtionship with Him.
He meets all of our
Needs.
He is the supreme example of
Giving.
Do you see the word, LOVING, there? That is what He is--our LOVING Savior! Because of that, we should love one another.
Paul talked about love and respect in marriage (Ephesians 5), but he was really saying that that was an illustration of the relationship between Christ and the church.
Christ
Left Heaven to come to this earth.
He
Overcame adversity while here. He even conquered death!
He
Valued mankind so much that He gave Himself on the cross.
He desires fellowship with us. He reconciled the world to Himself, so that people could have an
Intimate realtionship with Him.
He meets all of our
Needs.
He is the supreme example of
Giving.
Do you see the word, LOVING, there? That is what He is--our LOVING Savior! Because of that, we should love one another.
Course 11 Week 4
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Dealing with the Closed American Mind
One of the chapters Roger is reading is entitled, (something like) "Dealing with the Closed American Mind." I don't know if it is mentioned in the chapter, but I suspect that if you tak about something where a person has a felt need, you can gain their hearing somewhat.
What are your thoughts?
You may scroll down and comment in the week 3 comments area. Visitors are welcome to comment also.
What are your thoughts?
You may scroll down and comment in the week 3 comments area. Visitors are welcome to comment also.
Connecting with Postmoderns
This is something most preachers do every Sunday. If you have young unchurched visitors in your church, you will be trying to reach postmoderns. Even some of your church youth are more influenced by postmodernism than by their previous Sunday school teaching.
Here is my reply to one of Roger's posts:
"Roger, what tips stand out to you for commecting with postmoderns? I think the term modern referred to an age in history that related to new thoughts in science, etc. (If I am off base, refresh my memory.) Post modern refers to the time following that era. Connecting with postmoderns is something you have to do, whether you realize it or not, almost every time you preach."
I will post some of his answers here if he sees the question in time.
Here is my reply to one of Roger's posts:
"Roger, what tips stand out to you for commecting with postmoderns? I think the term modern referred to an age in history that related to new thoughts in science, etc. (If I am off base, refresh my memory.) Post modern refers to the time following that era. Connecting with postmoderns is something you have to do, whether you realize it or not, almost every time you preach."
I will post some of his answers here if he sees the question in time.
Preaching--Proclamation of God's Word
Preaching, by one definition, is the proclamation of God's Word. As such, a person, can take the Scriptural passage and find some of its main points and emphasize those points.
While I believe we should learn all we can about the grammatical construction of the words of Scripture, and that we should learn all we can about the historical setting for when those words were originally spoken; the nice thing about proclaiming the Word is that you can just take what the text says and emphasize it. Then the Word will not return void.
People with all different types of backgrounds have been called to preach throughout the centuries. Some very "unlearned" (as the world would put it) men have had great results by simply taking the main ideas of Scripture and simply emphasizing them. As long as we do not twist the meaning, this simply shows the amazing power of the Word of God.
While I believe we should learn all we can about the grammatical construction of the words of Scripture, and that we should learn all we can about the historical setting for when those words were originally spoken; the nice thing about proclaiming the Word is that you can just take what the text says and emphasize it. Then the Word will not return void.
People with all different types of backgrounds have been called to preach throughout the centuries. Some very "unlearned" (as the world would put it) men have had great results by simply taking the main ideas of Scripture and simply emphasizing them. As long as we do not twist the meaning, this simply shows the amazing power of the Word of God.
New Format
I am going to try putting my comments for each day in this left sidebar. The comments areas for the remaining weeks are displayed to the right. That is where you will place your comments for each week.
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The title of my course is GENERAL EPISTLES AND REVALATION. The instructor is Mr. Matthew McAffee. I will be watching three DVDs this week.
The first session was about the apostasy written about in Hebrews. This is speaking to Christians who have fallen away. There is a chance of apostasy among Christians. This book really supports this topic.
Tonight is our monthly preachers' meeting. I have been looking forward to it all month long. I hope to see you guys there. I think that Bro. Jason Forby will be the speaker.
Greetings Brothers, this week I will be reporting on Haddon Robinson's book" Biblical Preaching" chapter 8, and it is titled: Start with a Bang and Quit all Over.
This is by far the best chapter in the book for me. It talks about the importance of introductions and conclusions. After reading this chapter and listening to sermons it is amazing what you can do in both situations. God I pray for this gift, that is the gift of presentation.
Hey Tyler, I read the book by Robert Shank titled Life in the Son and it was a teaching on "Perseverence" maybe you've read it, does your study define apostasy just as a turning away from the faith or does it give a deeper definition. God Bless!!!
An introduction has many jobs, for example your introduction should intoduce you as a speaker to the audience, it should also introduce your sermon idea as well as your central thought and in the case of an inductive sermon, it should introduce your first major point.
It does talk a little about what it means. Hebrews was written to born again Christians. I think that it was telling them that apostasy is possible even after you are saved. This is opposite of what our calvanist brothers would teach. I believe apostasy is happening everyday and it can happen to even the most spiritual people we know. That is why it is important to stay in the Word.
The next session talked about the book of James. James is a very practical book. It is known as the "how-to manual for Christians". The author is believed to be the brother of our Lord. It talks about the dangers of the tongue and also warns about being too worldly. The book ends with a warning to the rich.
The next session is about 1 John. There are several themes in this book. It is about walking in the light. We shouldn't have hate in our heart. John also states that if someone does not believe in Jesus, that person is an antichrist. He warns of false teachers that we have to watch for also.
The next session talks about 2 and 3 John. These are very small letters. 2 John is about mutual love toward Christians and dangers of false teachers. 3 John is about loving service and a good testimony. It also is a rebuke of Diotrephes.
We are preaching at Saratoga Church on Sunday. I have preached there before and it was a good time in the Lord. I pray that it is even better this time. God is so good to me and my family. I hope that you guys have blessed weekends. God Bless!
Well in chapter 8, Start With a Bang and Quit All Over, I have to tell you that your introduction should demand attention. You have to gain your audiences attention or you will lose them right off the bat. Bro. Robinson quotes an old Russian proverb which holds a lot of truth in it," It is the same with men as with donkeys: whoever would hold them fast must get a very good grip on their ears!". That is a lot of truth,Amen
Get personal, thats right your introduction should uncover needs as well as getting personal. If a preacher can introduce his/her listeners to a personal need then the Holy Spirit can come into the situation and do a wonderful work in that person's heart and life. So get personal!!. Hope you had a blessed day preaching Tyler, God Bless
In conclusions that is exactly what they should do, conclude, end,stop, but the conclusion must be carefully done. Conclusions to a sermon can be a summary of what has been preached but not a re-preaching of the sermon. A conclusion should be a tool to use tying up loose ends. A preacher does not want to leave the audience confused about what has been preached. AMEN to that. You all have a blessed day!!!!
Another point made in this chapter about conclusions was the fact that sometimes a sudden stop can have a powerful effect. Be careful though if done poorly it can leave the audience confused about what it is that they are to do.
We got a letter from our Marine Recruit today and he misses home but seemed to be doing well. They got their M-16 rifles today and that was cool. He also said the church services were awesome and that Sunday about 30 Recruits got saved and in adam's words he said "Praise the Lord" I have prayed for his well being and God is always faithful, Thank you God.
Wow! What a testimony! I am very glad that thirty were saved at the Marine Church sservice. Those boys will take something really special with them . God is so good. I am continually amazed at what He does in people's lives.
The last session talks a little bit about 1 Peter. There is debate among scholars of whether or not Peter actually wrote it. They say that an uneducated fisherman could not write in such good Greek. I think that Peter probably had to speak Greek well for his profession. That was the language of trade in those days. He also could have had an aide to write is for him. Either way, I believe Peter wrote this book.
This week I will reading chapter 9 in Haddon Robinson's Book titled: Biblical Preaching, and the title to chapter 9 is; The Dress of Thought.
Up until now the book has been talking about the sermon content, ideas, outlines,and so on , this chapter talks about "the delivery".
Your delivery of a sermon identfies your style of delivery. Everyone has a style,some bland, dull or some invigorate,some are precise. Your style of delivery often reflects how you think or our outlook on life and life matters. You gotta have style!!! God Bless you all
I really enjoyed catching up on your comments. Roger, that is awesome about the church service that Adam attended. Praise the Lord for a chaplain that would talk about the need for salvation and tell them how to do it. There is pressure in some areas for the chaplains to have to water things down. This was a great Testimony!
Hey Tyler, you had commented that some considered Peter uneducated, I believe like you that Peter did write the book, so did your study ever say what kind of education Peter actually had? You and I both know that he was inspired by The Holy Spirit so educated or not he would have been capable through The Holy Spirit. Amen? Amen!!
Yes Praise the Lord for men to stand up for Jesus, Marine men at that. I hope to get more details about the services later but you all are right what a testimony/praise report. I am so glad that God is a part of my life as well as my families, THANK YOU GOD!!!!
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