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You will notice some posts below that relate to various topics of discussion by our online community of preachers.
One of the purposes of Preachers' Meeting is to provide a place for young ministers or those recently called to preach to interact around the principles in a course of study recommended by our local group of preachers in the Southern Illinois area.
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You will notice some posts below that relate to various topics of discussion by our online community of preachers.
One of the purposes of Preachers' Meeting is to provide a place for young ministers or those recently called to preach to interact around the principles in a course of study recommended by our local group of preachers in the Southern Illinois area.
We invite you to look in on our conversations. If you would like to add comments as a guest, you are welcome to do so.
If this looks interesting to you, you may join us as we start a new session. You can look in the side bar (or sometimes it is moved to right below this post) to see the weekly requirements. We start new courses every 8 or 9 weeks. As already mentioned, you are welcome to comment as a guest before that time.
Below these posts, you will see the word, "comments." Just click on it, and you will see a box on the right side of the screen where you may add your comments.
Look around. Enjoy yourself, and come back often!
Weekly Requirements
Here is a review of the general requirements for each week.
You have three assignments each week
(1) Make at least two initial posts in your posting area. The first one will be the name of the course, and the names (or numbers of the DVD's) of the chapters or lectures you will be covering during the week. The second one will be a comment on one of those chapters. You will receive one point for getting the first post in on Tuesday or Wednesday. You will also get a point for getting at least one more initial post in.
(2) Go to your fellow student's posting areas, and ask them a question or make comments about their intial posts. You will recieve one point for completing this assignment before 12:00 a.m. on Friday morning (that would be before midnight on Thursday).
(3) Answer the questions asked.
(4) On Fridays, I will also give directions for making remaining posts during the week. Be sure and read those, and take them into account when making at least one of your remaining posts.
In all, we want to make at least nine posts during the week. You will receive points for that as follows:
9 or more posts - 12 points
6-8 posts - 10 points
3-5 posts - 6 points
1-2 posts - 3 points
You will have the extra points you had accumulated by getting things in on time. Those are bonus points that will be used only to move your grade closer to 100 if you need them. They will be awarded each week if needed to move your grade up to 12 for the week. If you do not need them for that week, they will be carried over to the next week(s). Remember the posts that count for points will be at least three sentences long.
You have three assignments each week
(1) Make at least two initial posts in your posting area. The first one will be the name of the course, and the names (or numbers of the DVD's) of the chapters or lectures you will be covering during the week. The second one will be a comment on one of those chapters. You will receive one point for getting the first post in on Tuesday or Wednesday. You will also get a point for getting at least one more initial post in.
(2) Go to your fellow student's posting areas, and ask them a question or make comments about their intial posts. You will recieve one point for completing this assignment before 12:00 a.m. on Friday morning (that would be before midnight on Thursday).
(3) Answer the questions asked.
(4) On Fridays, I will also give directions for making remaining posts during the week. Be sure and read those, and take them into account when making at least one of your remaining posts.
In all, we want to make at least nine posts during the week. You will receive points for that as follows:
9 or more posts - 12 points
6-8 posts - 10 points
3-5 posts - 6 points
1-2 posts - 3 points
You will have the extra points you had accumulated by getting things in on time. Those are bonus points that will be used only to move your grade closer to 100 if you need them. They will be awarded each week if needed to move your grade up to 12 for the week. If you do not need them for that week, they will be carried over to the next week(s). Remember the posts that count for points will be at least three sentences long.
Thoughts on Application
Roger gave some good thoughts on application:
"Chapter 75, titled: 'Apply Within' is a lesson in application. The writer explains why it is sometimes difficult applying a sermon to real life situations. I will list some of the reasons application is not applied to our lives.
"First it is "hard work", it is hard to find application to every situation in the congregation,
"second, is wrong assumptions, assuming the audience is able to apply any and all biblical truths is totally a wrong assumption,
"third, is fear, fear of being to deep or to simplistic in the text and failing at application, and then there is training or lack thereof,
"many preachers know the text, and the history and the order of things but are totally untrained in application. One gentleman said it this way," how can you be a good football player when you can pass the ball, or when you can kick the ball, or when you can run with the ball but you don't know the rules of the game."
"Chapter 75, titled: 'Apply Within' is a lesson in application. The writer explains why it is sometimes difficult applying a sermon to real life situations. I will list some of the reasons application is not applied to our lives.
"First it is "hard work", it is hard to find application to every situation in the congregation,
"second, is wrong assumptions, assuming the audience is able to apply any and all biblical truths is totally a wrong assumption,
"third, is fear, fear of being to deep or to simplistic in the text and failing at application, and then there is training or lack thereof,
"many preachers know the text, and the history and the order of things but are totally untrained in application. One gentleman said it this way," how can you be a good football player when you can pass the ball, or when you can kick the ball, or when you can run with the ball but you don't know the rules of the game."
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Marriage Seminar
If you live in the souther Illinois area, we would like to invite you to a Couples' Marriage Enrichment Seminar on Saturday, February 27. It starts at 6:00 p.m and will run to 9:00 p.m.
After the welcome, there will be a dinner. Then there will be an opening session, followed by two breakout sessions, then a short closing.
The Keynote Speaker is Dr. Randy Carney (That's me :)!) and Roger and Janet Dutton will be speaking during the breakout sessions (That's Roger, who is commenting on this blog during this term!). Randy and Rhonda (my wife!) Carney will also have a breakout session discussing "Keys to Marital Bliss."
The Keynote Address will be on the topic of "The Way to a Successful Marriage: The Shocking and Surprising Truth."
Roger and Janet will be talking about "Hope for Restoring your marriage."
The cost is $15.00 per couple and that includes a dinner and all seminar materials. A nursery and childcare will be available. (Please indicate that you need these services when you register.) A book table with resources from Handfuls on Purpose Christian Bookstore will be available.
The seminar is for couples of all ages, ranging from newlyweds to marriage veterans!
To register, call 618-627-2228 to let the church know how may will be attending. Payment can be made at the event. (Make checks to TFBC.) For more information, call the church at 618-627-2228.
After the welcome, there will be a dinner. Then there will be an opening session, followed by two breakout sessions, then a short closing.
The Keynote Speaker is Dr. Randy Carney (That's me :)!) and Roger and Janet Dutton will be speaking during the breakout sessions (That's Roger, who is commenting on this blog during this term!). Randy and Rhonda (my wife!) Carney will also have a breakout session discussing "Keys to Marital Bliss."
The Keynote Address will be on the topic of "The Way to a Successful Marriage: The Shocking and Surprising Truth."
Roger and Janet will be talking about "Hope for Restoring your marriage."
The cost is $15.00 per couple and that includes a dinner and all seminar materials. A nursery and childcare will be available. (Please indicate that you need these services when you register.) A book table with resources from Handfuls on Purpose Christian Bookstore will be available.
The seminar is for couples of all ages, ranging from newlyweds to marriage veterans!
To register, call 618-627-2228 to let the church know how may will be attending. Payment can be made at the event. (Make checks to TFBC.) For more information, call the church at 618-627-2228.
The Greatest Love
Since Valentine's Day falls on Sunday this year, I imagine there will be a ton of sermons going out on the topic of love.
Paul talked about love and respect in marriage (Ephesians 5), but he was really saying that that was an illustration of the relationship between Christ and the church.
Christ
Left Heaven to come to this earth.
He
Overcame adversity while here. He even conquered death!
He
Valued mankind so much that He gave Himself on the cross.
He desires fellowship with us. He reconciled the world to Himself, so that people could have an
Intimate realtionship with Him.
He meets all of our
Needs.
He is the supreme example of
Giving.
Do you see the word, LOVING, there? That is what He is--our LOVING Savior! Because of that, we should love one another.
Paul talked about love and respect in marriage (Ephesians 5), but he was really saying that that was an illustration of the relationship between Christ and the church.
Christ
Left Heaven to come to this earth.
He
Overcame adversity while here. He even conquered death!
He
Valued mankind so much that He gave Himself on the cross.
He desires fellowship with us. He reconciled the world to Himself, so that people could have an
Intimate realtionship with Him.
He meets all of our
Needs.
He is the supreme example of
Giving.
Do you see the word, LOVING, there? That is what He is--our LOVING Savior! Because of that, we should love one another.
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Dealing with the Closed American Mind
One of the chapters Roger is reading is entitled, (something like) "Dealing with the Closed American Mind." I don't know if it is mentioned in the chapter, but I suspect that if you tak about something where a person has a felt need, you can gain their hearing somewhat.
What are your thoughts?
You may scroll down and comment in the week 3 comments area. Visitors are welcome to comment also.
What are your thoughts?
You may scroll down and comment in the week 3 comments area. Visitors are welcome to comment also.
Connecting with Postmoderns
This is something most preachers do every Sunday. If you have young unchurched visitors in your church, you will be trying to reach postmoderns. Even some of your church youth are more influenced by postmodernism than by their previous Sunday school teaching.
Here is my reply to one of Roger's posts:
"Roger, what tips stand out to you for commecting with postmoderns? I think the term modern referred to an age in history that related to new thoughts in science, etc. (If I am off base, refresh my memory.) Post modern refers to the time following that era. Connecting with postmoderns is something you have to do, whether you realize it or not, almost every time you preach."
I will post some of his answers here if he sees the question in time.
Here is my reply to one of Roger's posts:
"Roger, what tips stand out to you for commecting with postmoderns? I think the term modern referred to an age in history that related to new thoughts in science, etc. (If I am off base, refresh my memory.) Post modern refers to the time following that era. Connecting with postmoderns is something you have to do, whether you realize it or not, almost every time you preach."
I will post some of his answers here if he sees the question in time.
Preaching--Proclamation of God's Word
Preaching, by one definition, is the proclamation of God's Word. As such, a person, can take the Scriptural passage and find some of its main points and emphasize those points.
While I believe we should learn all we can about the grammatical construction of the words of Scripture, and that we should learn all we can about the historical setting for when those words were originally spoken; the nice thing about proclaiming the Word is that you can just take what the text says and emphasize it. Then the Word will not return void.
People with all different types of backgrounds have been called to preach throughout the centuries. Some very "unlearned" (as the world would put it) men have had great results by simply taking the main ideas of Scripture and simply emphasizing them. As long as we do not twist the meaning, this simply shows the amazing power of the Word of God.
While I believe we should learn all we can about the grammatical construction of the words of Scripture, and that we should learn all we can about the historical setting for when those words were originally spoken; the nice thing about proclaiming the Word is that you can just take what the text says and emphasize it. Then the Word will not return void.
People with all different types of backgrounds have been called to preach throughout the centuries. Some very "unlearned" (as the world would put it) men have had great results by simply taking the main ideas of Scripture and simply emphasizing them. As long as we do not twist the meaning, this simply shows the amazing power of the Word of God.
New Format
I am going to try putting my comments for each day in this left sidebar. The comments areas for the remaining weeks are displayed to the right. That is where you will place your comments for each week.
19 comments:
The title of my book is- THE NEW TESTAMENT:ITS BACKGROUND AND MESSAGE. There are going to be four cahpters for discussion this week.
5. Learning About Jesus
6. The Synoptic Problem
7. The Four Gospels
8.The Birth, Childhood, and Early Ministry of Jesus
Tyler
The fifth chapter is called-Learning About Jesus. It talks about the order of His ministry as an outline. It also talks about the geography of Jesus homeland. There were three main regions in Palastine. They were Galilee, Samaria, and Judea. Judea had the heaviest jewish population. Galilee had many Gentiles and Samaria had a lot of mixed race due to the Syrian captivity. this chapter has some input about Jesus' teaching methods as well. He usually used parables but, He would also use the epigram, which is a strong statement that would grab the attention of the people. The chronology of Jesus' life is in five parts- the birth and early years, the period of preparation, early Judean minstry, the Galilean ministry, the final journey to Jerusalem, and the week of the passion.
Tyler
Thanks.
One of the things you get to do when reading college-level material is use big words, like "synoptic." Even though I can sometimes pronounce Greek words, when I come to a place where I can talk about them in a sermon, I try to avoid mentioning the Greek word. How can you do that? Sometimes you can say, "The word as used here means." Then if someone asks you about it later, you can explain what the Greek word is.
Sometimes we will need to come up with the meanings of the larger words when we want to communicate them with our congregations.
:)
Randy
Since Judea had the heaviest Jewish population, did they look down on the Samaritans and even their fellow Jews from Galilee?
Did this also have something to do with the question, "Can anything good come from Nazareth?"
I think that the Jews from Judea did look down on the Samaritans as well as the Jews from Galilee. They were so involved with themselves that they couldn't find a way to show love to anyone who they thought of as "below" them. The statement that you mentioned brings some light into how they thought of Jesus. How could a lowly Jew from Galilee actually be the Messiah? They were to "smart" to learn from him, at least that is what they thought.
Tyler
The synoptic problem is about the first three Gospels. It claims that they are too similar and must have been used from the same source. I disagree because each Gospel is directed to a different group of people. There are three stages to the development of the Gospels which Luke used.(Luke 1:1-4) The first stage is form criticism which refers to oral tradition. The second stage is source critism which refers to written sources and the last stage is redaction criticism which focuses on the activity of the author during the writing of th book. I think that the Holy Spirit was the reason behind the way that the Gospels were written and to whom they were directed to.
Tyler
Sometimes terms like form criticism and redaction criticism are favored by liberal thinkers and are used in different ways. However, your description here seems to be in keeping with h0w a Bible-believing scholar would use the terms.
Some think there was a single document named "Q" that all of these writers referred to. (Most biblically conservative scholars reject that view.)Others think Mark was written first, and that Matthew and Luke had access to it when they wrote their documents. Another view is that Matthew was written first, and that Mark and Luke referred to it.
However the Gospel writers looked at any other documents, the Holy Spirit, to be sure, guided each of them in producing their own books. Their individual writings contained just what God wanted said. Their similarities come about because they spoke of many of the same events. Their differences often come about because of their purposes for writing to different audiences.
I think that the virgin birth is very important because it shows that God can do anything He desires. Sometimes God does things for us that we do not understand at the time, but later on we can look back and see what He has done. I think of the raod that God sent me on in order to get me where I am today. There were a lot of heartaches and struggles( I'm sure that there will be plenty more),but God always makes good out of them. I also would like to add that the picture of the galaxy on your blog reminds me just how special we are in God's eyes. Of all the different planets and places out there, He sent His only son to just one of those! That is a wonderful thought.
Tyler
Chapter seven is titled The Four Gospels. It talks about the differences and purposes in each one. I find it interesting that God set it up that way. He new that He would need different approaches to spread the gospel message. Matthew seems to be directed toward the Jews. He also puts a special input on Jesus' teachings. Mark focused more on the person and work of Jesus. Luke seems to be writing to a larger audience and makes sure that he wrote an accurate account of the story of Jesus. John is my favorite gospel because it is much easier to read than the others are. It also puts more emphasis on the deity of Jesus. God made us to have more than one gospel so we could learn more about Jesus from different points of view.
Tyler
Tyler,
I just wanted to let you know that Rusty went bicycle riding with Bro. Keny Blumenstock yesterday morning. They road 13 miles in the rural Marion area, and road through the park in town. Just wanted to let you know that the ministry is not "all work, and no play:).
Bro. Randy
Looks like you are going to make your nine quality comments again, so I am just throwing in some social stuff here. I mentioned that Rusty went bicycle riding yesterday. Do you have any hobbies? Sounds like you might like to read. Do you have a favorite sport?
I really like basketball and played quite often until well into my 50's, but it has been a while. Maybe some of us should get together for a pickup game sometime. (I prefer half-court nowadays.) Just take it easy on the old guy if we do. :) - Randy
I would love to play a basketball game sometime. Basketball is my favorite sport as well, even though I am not very good at it. Some of my hobbies are hunting, fishing, and playing piano. I don't play piano in front of people because it is just something that I do for fun and I am not very good at it at all. I like to watch NBA basketball. My favorite team is the LA Lakers. We used to watch Magic Johnson and Kareem play on TV when I was a child. I have always liked them. My wife and I have also taken up bicycle riding, but we have never rode very far. We just like to spend time together away from everything now and then.
Tyler
I think that it must have been difficult for Jesus' brothers to deal with Him. As the youngest of three brothers, I know what it is like to have an older brother who seems to never do anything wrong. My parents divorced when I was young so it made it that much more difficult to be thought of as a good boy. I wonder what Jesus' mother and brothers thought in Mark 3:31-35, when Jesus announced that His true kin were people who did His will. I bet that they were pretty angry about it.
Tyler
Chapter eight talks about the birth, childhood and early ministry of Jesus. Matthew and Luke both tell about Jesus' birth. Mark starts at the ministry of John the Baptist, while John starts by describing Jesus existance before time began. Matthew mentions the flight by Joseph and Mary into Egypt. I really like the story in Luke about when Jesus was twelve years old and went to the temple. He amazed the scribes with His wisdom at such a young age. The baptism of Jesus signified Him as to Messiah and started His earthly ministry. It must have been a sight to see!!! It tells of His early ministry in Galilee and His first miracle recorded in John. He chose His disiples and began to go about Galilee and preach the gospel.
Tyler
Did the author talk about the differences and similarities of the two genealogies mentioned in Matthew and Luke?
Yes-the author did talk about the difference in genealogies in Matthew and Luke. Matthew takes the line of Joseph and Luke took the line of Mary.
Tyler
I hope you had a nice Mothers Day. Ours was very good. We had an excellent church service yesterday. Last night, I preached the gospel for the first time at Grange Hall. I preached out of Mark1:35-39. It was amazing to learn that Jesus chose to go out and preach rather than stay and perform miracles in Capernaum. We had a good alter service and many came forth to pray last night. God is Awesome!!!!!!
Tyler
I wonder what Mary thought when Jesus was teaching about the negatives of tradition. She was also a Jew of the house of David. It may have been tough for her to handle from time to time. Even though He was her son, she may have been really worried about how He would be received by the Jews.
Tyler
Which of these four chapters, do you think you will be able to utilize most quickly in your ministry? Why? Did you use anything you studied for this course in the preparation for your message Sunday night? I just wondered if you have already used any of this material. I'm glad you got to preach at Grange Hall.
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