Monday, November 16, 2009
What Is the Way to Heaven?
In studying about Jesus being the only way to Heaven, I think what comes to mind is: If Jesus is not the way to Heaven, What is the way to Heaven? How do these other views relate to the justice and mercy of God? One way, perhaps, is simply to say that God is merciful, but how is that applied? What about the idea of punishment for atrocities? Does anyone deserve eternal punishment? Most people seem to think that some crimes deserve some type of punishment. If something or someone does deserve some type of punishment, God will be just. Will He be just across the board? How do other ways of salvation relate to God's justice?
Sunday, November 15, 2009
The Problem of Evil
The problem of evil, which is related to suffering, as described in the Rockbridge textbook, has been around for a long time. I find, at least in part, that free will as described in the text gives some ways of giving partial explanation, which at least removes some blame (that others may place on Him) from God.
The problem will probably continue to be debated until we leave this earth. Then we will be given the mind of Christ. Until that time, it is probably best to recognize that some aspects of life will only remain a mystery. The best course, as our confidence grows, is to trust God--even though we don't understand what is going on.
It is easy to say that when we are not the parties going through suffering. However, it does seem to be a mark of maturity when we see those who trust God in the midst of their confusion.
The problem will probably continue to be debated until we leave this earth. Then we will be given the mind of Christ. Until that time, it is probably best to recognize that some aspects of life will only remain a mystery. The best course, as our confidence grows, is to trust God--even though we don't understand what is going on.
It is easy to say that when we are not the parties going through suffering. However, it does seem to be a mark of maturity when we see those who trust God in the midst of their confusion.
Saturday, November 14, 2009
Jesus' Role in Creation
As I continue to think about the importance of Jesus being the way to Heaven, I am taken, once again, back to the thoughts of Creation. In Genesis 1, God said, "“Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness." That, being in the plural, shows one of the earliest ideas of God as Trinity. Since Jesus was the second person of the Trinity, the Father could have been speaking to the Son here. (The Spirit was already mentioned very early in the chapter.)
That is why there really is no contradiction when John 1 speaks of Jesus being involved in the act of Creation: "1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made." (NKJV)
Jesus was unique in Creation, and I believe that eventually plays a part in His providing salvation.
That is why there really is no contradiction when John 1 speaks of Jesus being involved in the act of Creation: "1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made." (NKJV)
Jesus was unique in Creation, and I believe that eventually plays a part in His providing salvation.
Thursday, November 12, 2009
Course 10 Week 3 Main Comments
Sorry, I forgot to put this up yesterday. Your comments below the other post will count for this week.
End of Life Issues
In the Rockbidge class, we are dealing with some difficult issues that families sometimes have to face concerning end of life issues. You may continue on with the lines of thought you have raised for the remainder of this week, or you may comment on the following:
As we continue the discussion this week, for our pesonal wrestling with some of these issues, perhaps we could be helped by some of Joni Earickson Tada's thoughts. She pointed out that we have to determine if our decision will prolong life or if it will prolong death. In what ways could we perhaps be helped by the principle she just mentioned.
My father passed away almost 24 years ago. He had eight years of dealing with chronic lymphocytic leukemia after he was diagnosed. His wish was, "Have them do everything they can for me as long as I can breathe on my own." He did not want to be hooked up to a ventilator (Just because I am sharing this does not mean there are no times whenit is very beneficial for someone to be placed on a ventilator.) He really had eight "pretty good" years before he went on to be with the Lord. He wanted life prolonged, but he didn't want death prolonged. In my case, Joni's way of looking at things helps. Is it helpful for you? Does it raise other questions? If so, what?
As we continue the discussion this week, for our pesonal wrestling with some of these issues, perhaps we could be helped by some of Joni Earickson Tada's thoughts. She pointed out that we have to determine if our decision will prolong life or if it will prolong death. In what ways could we perhaps be helped by the principle she just mentioned.
My father passed away almost 24 years ago. He had eight years of dealing with chronic lymphocytic leukemia after he was diagnosed. His wish was, "Have them do everything they can for me as long as I can breathe on my own." He did not want to be hooked up to a ventilator (Just because I am sharing this does not mean there are no times whenit is very beneficial for someone to be placed on a ventilator.) He really had eight "pretty good" years before he went on to be with the Lord. He wanted life prolonged, but he didn't want death prolonged. In my case, Joni's way of looking at things helps. Is it helpful for you? Does it raise other questions? If so, what?
Tuesday, November 10, 2009
Funerals for Those You Don't Know Very Well
It is difficult to believe that we are already 1/4 of the way through the course. This week, the Rockbridge students will turn in some reading questions and we will deal with some issues such as illness and theology, and bioethics.
In our discussions, I just wanted to share with you a little about preaching funerals. Sometimes you will be called upon to preach a funeral for someone you don't know very well. I am often glad to do this, but it is challenging to personalize your message.
Yesterday, I conducted a funeral for a gentleman I did not know very well. Bro. Roger did know him, so he actually observed my going through some of this process first hand
I had about an hour to circulate among the family, and I asked different ones, "If you could describe _______________ in one or two words, what would you say?" I found the answers to be fairly consistent: "hard worker," "knowledgeable/wise," "quiet," "married for 57 years!" I used to ask people if any particular memory stands out, but lots of times they "draw a blank" when I ask that question. This one, about describing someone in a few words, seems to work much better.
The people I talked to also told me about his early church attendance, that he had been saved and baptized. The church attendance had slacked off in the last few years; however, his three sons and several of the grandchildren very openly testified of their faith and even of his faith.
When I talked with him last, he had caught a squirrel. I went back and forth in my mind as to whether I would use that as part of the message. I actually was able to use that as an illustration of how we are captured and Christ sets us free. I also was able to use the fact that the Bible compares marriage to the church. This fit in very well because of their longevity in marriage.
During the service, one of the grandsons spoke of some specific memories and also talked of his grandfather's "Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ." He did a very good job of speaking.
All of this new information made the task much easier. The sons also encouraged me to transithon into an evangelistic message as part of the service too. I usually do that anyway, but they particularly wanted the Gospel to be presented.
So, it ended up being a good day.
In our discussions, I just wanted to share with you a little about preaching funerals. Sometimes you will be called upon to preach a funeral for someone you don't know very well. I am often glad to do this, but it is challenging to personalize your message.
Yesterday, I conducted a funeral for a gentleman I did not know very well. Bro. Roger did know him, so he actually observed my going through some of this process first hand
I had about an hour to circulate among the family, and I asked different ones, "If you could describe _______________ in one or two words, what would you say?" I found the answers to be fairly consistent: "hard worker," "knowledgeable/wise," "quiet," "married for 57 years!" I used to ask people if any particular memory stands out, but lots of times they "draw a blank" when I ask that question. This one, about describing someone in a few words, seems to work much better.
The people I talked to also told me about his early church attendance, that he had been saved and baptized. The church attendance had slacked off in the last few years; however, his three sons and several of the grandchildren very openly testified of their faith and even of his faith.
When I talked with him last, he had caught a squirrel. I went back and forth in my mind as to whether I would use that as part of the message. I actually was able to use that as an illustration of how we are captured and Christ sets us free. I also was able to use the fact that the Bible compares marriage to the church. This fit in very well because of their longevity in marriage.
During the service, one of the grandsons spoke of some specific memories and also talked of his grandfather's "Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ." He did a very good job of speaking.
All of this new information made the task much easier. The sons also encouraged me to transithon into an evangelistic message as part of the service too. I usually do that anyway, but they particularly wanted the Gospel to be presented.
So, it ended up being a good day.
Saturday, November 7, 2009
Care-Giving Is Like Communication in Marriage
Have you noticed that much of what we have been talking about relates to marriage communication?
I have studied this over the course of the last several years, and in preparation for a chapter in the (soon to be published) book, The LOVING Way to a Successful Marriage: Six Keys to Marital Bliss. The idea that men and women think differently (actually have different ways of forming their thought processes) often seems to intrigue audiences when I speak on this aspect of marriage.
Bill and Pam Farrel have written a very good book on this subject called, Men are Like Waffles: Women are Like Spaghetti. Basically, the idea is that men tend to think in compartments like the little boxes in waffles, and that women tend to view all of life as being interrelated like spaghetti all tangled together.
Men are ofen in problem-solving mode (and sometimes that is what the wife needs), but often the wife just needs him to empthize with her, or help her as she tries to see how what she is talking about relates to the rest of life. Sometimes all she wants is for him to listen.
Men relating to men in a care-giving situation can be done somewhat differently than men relating to women, but often we see the advice given to us in care-giving situations being more like the advice given to a husband when learning how to communicate with his wife. Why is that? Do you think it could be that in many care-giving situations we really can't fix the problem? So, we learn to be there for the person we are trying to help, just like a husband does for his wife in the situations where she really doesn't need the problem to be fixed.
Does this seem to make sense? Can you think of any other ways this analogy might work? Do you have any illustrations you might be comfortable in sharing of how just being there can help in your spirtual care-giving situations? Maybe you would like to show the distinction of where the analogy breaks down. (All anologies break down at some point because they only show how different things are alike--but still they are different things.)
Share some of your thoughts on this in some of your posts in unit 2.
I have studied this over the course of the last several years, and in preparation for a chapter in the (soon to be published) book, The LOVING Way to a Successful Marriage: Six Keys to Marital Bliss. The idea that men and women think differently (actually have different ways of forming their thought processes) often seems to intrigue audiences when I speak on this aspect of marriage.
Bill and Pam Farrel have written a very good book on this subject called, Men are Like Waffles: Women are Like Spaghetti. Basically, the idea is that men tend to think in compartments like the little boxes in waffles, and that women tend to view all of life as being interrelated like spaghetti all tangled together.
Men are ofen in problem-solving mode (and sometimes that is what the wife needs), but often the wife just needs him to empthize with her, or help her as she tries to see how what she is talking about relates to the rest of life. Sometimes all she wants is for him to listen.
Men relating to men in a care-giving situation can be done somewhat differently than men relating to women, but often we see the advice given to us in care-giving situations being more like the advice given to a husband when learning how to communicate with his wife. Why is that? Do you think it could be that in many care-giving situations we really can't fix the problem? So, we learn to be there for the person we are trying to help, just like a husband does for his wife in the situations where she really doesn't need the problem to be fixed.
Does this seem to make sense? Can you think of any other ways this analogy might work? Do you have any illustrations you might be comfortable in sharing of how just being there can help in your spirtual care-giving situations? Maybe you would like to show the distinction of where the analogy breaks down. (All anologies break down at some point because they only show how different things are alike--but still they are different things.)
Share some of your thoughts on this in some of your posts in unit 2.
Thursday, November 5, 2009
More about Boundaries
I have enjoyed listening to the students at Rockbridge Seminary describe the value of putting boundaries in their lives. This is something that is important for our Preachers Meeting participlants to learn to do also. We are not always successful at this, perhaps, but for the sake of our health and for the sake of our families, this is an important thing to do.
The president of one of the companies/ministries that I worked for in the past taught on this subject. He said for us to learn this statement:
"At no time
will your problem become my problem;
for, then you wouldn't have a problem;
and, I like helping people with problems!"
The more we can learn to do this (without being calloused), the stronger we can be for the one to whom we are trying to minister.
The president of one of the companies/ministries that I worked for in the past taught on this subject. He said for us to learn this statement:
"At no time
will your problem become my problem;
for, then you wouldn't have a problem;
and, I like helping people with problems!"
The more we can learn to do this (without being calloused), the stronger we can be for the one to whom we are trying to minister.
Wednesday, November 4, 2009
Two-Question Method of Counseling
Sometimes you will be called upon to help people in times of crisis. At other times, you will be asked to counsel people in the midst of all kinds of problems. Listen is a skill that can help in both cases.
Years ago, I had the privilege of attending a Billy Graham School of Evangelism. One of the speakers was Dr. Charles Allen. He spoke on the topic of counseling. He had what I later came to call the "two-question method of counseling."
He said a person or a couple would come to him for counseling. They would be seated before him at his desk. The he said that he would put his hands together, and ask, "Now, what is the problem?" Then he would be quiet and just listen.
After a while they would clarify the problem. Sometimes that is all that is necessary, he said. When the problem is clarified, that might be all they need.
After they stated the problem, he woud fold his hands together and say, "Now, what do you think you should do about it?" Then he would listen.
Finally, he would say, "That sounds like a good idea. Why don't you try that?"
He said he had a lot of success with that type of "counseling."
Obviously, if what they thought they should do was clearly against Scripture, his experiement would not work. However, in a lot of cases, what they came up with was pretty good.
Listening is a skill that is very useful in many areas of life. True listening between husbands and wives can help them work through many, many things.
People in crisis sometimes just need someone to listen to them.
May the Lord help us all to become better listeners.
Years ago, I had the privilege of attending a Billy Graham School of Evangelism. One of the speakers was Dr. Charles Allen. He spoke on the topic of counseling. He had what I later came to call the "two-question method of counseling."
He said a person or a couple would come to him for counseling. They would be seated before him at his desk. The he said that he would put his hands together, and ask, "Now, what is the problem?" Then he would be quiet and just listen.
After a while they would clarify the problem. Sometimes that is all that is necessary, he said. When the problem is clarified, that might be all they need.
After they stated the problem, he woud fold his hands together and say, "Now, what do you think you should do about it?" Then he would listen.
Finally, he would say, "That sounds like a good idea. Why don't you try that?"
He said he had a lot of success with that type of "counseling."
Obviously, if what they thought they should do was clearly against Scripture, his experiement would not work. However, in a lot of cases, what they came up with was pretty good.
Listening is a skill that is very useful in many areas of life. True listening between husbands and wives can help them work through many, many things.
People in crisis sometimes just need someone to listen to them.
May the Lord help us all to become better listeners.
Tuesday, November 3, 2009
Spiritual Care-Givers and Boundaries
One of the things in ministry that is a chellenge is to be involved with helping people. Sometimes we are thrust into the postition of being a spritual care-give. That seems to be overwhelming. We have to learn to help without bringing everyone's problems home in such a way that they negatively affect our health or our family. How can we do that?
One the things that can help us, because we deal with so many people who have problems, is to remember that "we are responsible to people, not for them." I don't remember where I first heard that quote, but I have found the principle to be helpful for relieving stress in my own life when it comes to trying to help others.
We don't have all the anwers, but we know we can point people to the One Who does have the answers. (The challenge is that sometimes the Lord speaks to us only in a whisper, or even seems to be silent--that is why personal Bible Study is so important. Our mind being saturated with Scripture helps us with objective truth when our personal subjective experiences cause us concerns.) We can gently put things in a spirtual perspective when we are thrust into the role of "spiritual care-giver."
One the things that can help us, because we deal with so many people who have problems, is to remember that "we are responsible to people, not for them." I don't remember where I first heard that quote, but I have found the principle to be helpful for relieving stress in my own life when it comes to trying to help others.
We don't have all the anwers, but we know we can point people to the One Who does have the answers. (The challenge is that sometimes the Lord speaks to us only in a whisper, or even seems to be silent--that is why personal Bible Study is so important. Our mind being saturated with Scripture helps us with objective truth when our personal subjective experiences cause us concerns.) We can gently put things in a spirtual perspective when we are thrust into the role of "spiritual care-giver."
Monday, November 2, 2009
Creation and Christ
For me the importance of Christ in the area of our salvation actually begins with the very first words of the Bible.
All Christians agree that God created the universe instead of the universe evolving without a design.
While there are some Christians who subscribe to the theory of an "older earh," I believer the "young earh" Creationists present very credible arguments.
Even those who subscribe to an older earth theory, should, in my opinion respect the young earth theory proponents. The young earth theory certainly fits in better with a literal reading of the Bible. (My view of that is that the literal reading is always preferred unless a figurative meaning is obvious.)
Don't we all agree that God created?
All Christians agree that God created the universe instead of the universe evolving without a design.
While there are some Christians who subscribe to the theory of an "older earh," I believer the "young earh" Creationists present very credible arguments.
Even those who subscribe to an older earth theory, should, in my opinion respect the young earth theory proponents. The young earth theory certainly fits in better with a literal reading of the Bible. (My view of that is that the literal reading is always preferred unless a figurative meaning is obvious.)
Don't we all agree that God created?
Sunday, November 1, 2009
Life's Confusing Moments
One of the things that is a challenge in pastoral care is helping people deal with life's confusing moments. The Book of Job gives some help in this respect.
You remember that God challenged Satan to "consider [God's] servant, Job." Then the Lord allowed Satan to bring all kinds of tragedy including sickness.
When Job was covered in boils,three friends came to comfort him. They did well, at first, by just being there and silently sympathizing with him. Then they started getting philosophical. They decided that Job must be experiencing this troupble because he had committed some sin in his life. Job knew this was not true, and he told them so. However, they continued to argue along that line of thought.
In Job 26 you can see:
The Folly of Man's Wisdom,
The Power of God
The nearly silent (whisper-NKJV) voice of God
and then in the context of the whole Bible, you can put this chapter into perspective when considering;
God's Plan of Salvation
There are four points you could use. (I did this morning as a guest speaker.)
If they are helpful, take them, revise or improve them, and add to them for messages of your own. Help yourself!
Some basic thrusts are that we cannot see the whole picture, but we know enough about God to know the He is trustworthy, even when we don't understand all that is going on. God is powerful, but known only to Him are the purposes of when He chooses to exercise that power in this life. God provides salvation, and, ultimately, that makes life worthwhile.
I hope you had good services this morning, and that God will bless you the rest of the week.
You remember that God challenged Satan to "consider [God's] servant, Job." Then the Lord allowed Satan to bring all kinds of tragedy including sickness.
When Job was covered in boils,three friends came to comfort him. They did well, at first, by just being there and silently sympathizing with him. Then they started getting philosophical. They decided that Job must be experiencing this troupble because he had committed some sin in his life. Job knew this was not true, and he told them so. However, they continued to argue along that line of thought.
In Job 26 you can see:
The Folly of Man's Wisdom,
The Power of God
The nearly silent (whisper-NKJV) voice of God
and then in the context of the whole Bible, you can put this chapter into perspective when considering;
God's Plan of Salvation
There are four points you could use. (I did this morning as a guest speaker.)
If they are helpful, take them, revise or improve them, and add to them for messages of your own. Help yourself!
Some basic thrusts are that we cannot see the whole picture, but we know enough about God to know the He is trustworthy, even when we don't understand all that is going on. God is powerful, but known only to Him are the purposes of when He chooses to exercise that power in this life. God provides salvation, and, ultimately, that makes life worthwhile.
I hope you had good services this morning, and that God will bless you the rest of the week.
Saturday, October 31, 2009
Pastoral Care and The Exclusive Claims of Christ
Last term, I embaked upon some study dealing with the exclusive claims of Christianity. This term, I will be immersed in Pastoral Care, and observing and interacting with your textbooks as well.
So, I plan to make my posts in this section over the next few weeks relating to any one of those three topics.
I am beginiing to see how my thoughts of how important the Second Person of the Trinity is actually colors how I look at life--and how it relates to my reading of the words recorded in the Bible.
So, I plan to make my posts in this section over the next few weeks relating to any one of those three topics.
I am beginiing to see how my thoughts of how important the Second Person of the Trinity is actually colors how I look at life--and how it relates to my reading of the words recorded in the Bible.
Friday, October 30, 2009
"Preaching" and "Jesus and the Gospels"
I have enjoyed your comments up to this point. Asking each other questions will be helpful. Roger, you and I could do Tyler a great service by asking him questions about some of his chapter titles since he will have so many choices about what to comment on. Tyler, since you have been through Roger's course already, you may be able to ask about some of the things you wished you could have discussed with someone else.
The Rockbridge Seminary course is off to a good start too. We only have six students in the class this time, so that will make some of my grading assignments a little easier.
The Rockbridge Seminary course is off to a good start too. We only have six students in the class this time, so that will make some of my grading assignments a little easier.
Wednesday, October 28, 2009
Course 10 Week 1 First Day!
Good morning, everyone,
This first week, as always, serves several purposes. We are to introduce ourselves to each other. I like it because I spend more time interjecting myself into your discussion than I do later in the course. You get to practice making posts, and a lot of purely social posts will be counted toward your goal of making nine quality posts. I remind everyone that, during a regular week, you will need an initial post in each forum by Thursday.
My wife and I both grew up in Southern Illinois. (If you are from southern Illinois, you capitalize the "S" :) !) I accepted the Lord as my Savior when I was eleven years old. During my senior year at Southern Illinois University, I recognized God's call to preach. Two years later, I married my wife Rhonda.
We have lived in Kansa City, MO (seminary), Fort Worth, TX, (seminary) and Memphis, TN (seminary), Chester, GA (pastoring, first child, Rachelle), Eatonton Georgia (associate pastor, Christian school principal, next three children, Ralanna, Rusty, and Rita Beth), Thompsonville, IL (Pastoral staff, principal), Lewisville, TX (pastoral staff, writer/editor for Accelerated Christian Education (A.C.E.), professor of Christian college) and back to Thompsonville, IL, where we have been for the last 22 years (a couple of pastorates and a church plant.)
Since all our names begin with "R" we were affectionately dubbed "the RC six-pack" at one of our churches.
The Lord has sent all of our children wonderful mates, and they all are involved in church. My son, Rusty, his wife, Brenda, and their two-year-old daughter, Grace, are Career Missionaries to Japan. You can check out their ministry here.
I resigned from my church last April and am currently involved in a speaking/writing/missions ministry. My most recent trip was to Acun(with a "tilde" over the "n")a, Mexico. My wife and I plan to make trips to Hokkaido, Japan, and to Hervey Bay, Queensland, Australia. I addition to that, I plan to make several more trips to Mexico, another one to Japan, and one to South Korea.
If you are interested in our speaking/writing ministry, please check out the website, The LOVING Way to a Successful Marriage. If you refer a church to that website, make sure they also see the "special arrangements" page.
I have been in ministry for 39 years. I look forward to sharing with you during the next few weeks of this course.
Tyler and Roger, I think it will be the three of us again for a while.
This first week, as always, serves several purposes. We are to introduce ourselves to each other. I like it because I spend more time interjecting myself into your discussion than I do later in the course. You get to practice making posts, and a lot of purely social posts will be counted toward your goal of making nine quality posts. I remind everyone that, during a regular week, you will need an initial post in each forum by Thursday.
My wife and I both grew up in Southern Illinois. (If you are from southern Illinois, you capitalize the "S" :) !) I accepted the Lord as my Savior when I was eleven years old. During my senior year at Southern Illinois University, I recognized God's call to preach. Two years later, I married my wife Rhonda.
We have lived in Kansa City, MO (seminary), Fort Worth, TX, (seminary) and Memphis, TN (seminary), Chester, GA (pastoring, first child, Rachelle), Eatonton Georgia (associate pastor, Christian school principal, next three children, Ralanna, Rusty, and Rita Beth), Thompsonville, IL (Pastoral staff, principal), Lewisville, TX (pastoral staff, writer/editor for Accelerated Christian Education (A.C.E.), professor of Christian college) and back to Thompsonville, IL, where we have been for the last 22 years (a couple of pastorates and a church plant.)
Since all our names begin with "R" we were affectionately dubbed "the RC six-pack" at one of our churches.
The Lord has sent all of our children wonderful mates, and they all are involved in church. My son, Rusty, his wife, Brenda, and their two-year-old daughter, Grace, are Career Missionaries to Japan. You can check out their ministry here.
I resigned from my church last April and am currently involved in a speaking/writing/missions ministry. My most recent trip was to Acun(with a "tilde" over the "n")a, Mexico. My wife and I plan to make trips to Hokkaido, Japan, and to Hervey Bay, Queensland, Australia. I addition to that, I plan to make several more trips to Mexico, another one to Japan, and one to South Korea.
If you are interested in our speaking/writing ministry, please check out the website, The LOVING Way to a Successful Marriage. If you refer a church to that website, make sure they also see the "special arrangements" page.
I have been in ministry for 39 years. I look forward to sharing with you during the next few weeks of this course.
Tyler and Roger, I think it will be the three of us again for a while.
Tuesday, October 27, 2009
Course 10 Week 1 Main Comments
You may place your comments for week 1 anytime after 12:01 a.m. Wednesday in the comments area below.
Remember that this is an introduction week. Tell us about yourself again, or give us some new information about yourself. The week is also a practice week for posting. Any comments that are at least 3 sentences long will count toward your total. In the weeks that follow, you will have to have certain types of comments to gain points.
Look at the section that describes the weekly requirements to learn how to get points.
Have a great time!
Remember that this is an introduction week. Tell us about yourself again, or give us some new information about yourself. The week is also a practice week for posting. Any comments that are at least 3 sentences long will count toward your total. In the weeks that follow, you will have to have certain types of comments to gain points.
Look at the section that describes the weekly requirements to learn how to get points.
Have a great time!
New Course Starting Tomorrow
As mentioned earlier, we will be starting a new course tomorrow. If you are intrested in joining us, look over the requirements and send me an email at rcarneysurvey@yahoo.com.
I look forward to being with you again. I started the course, Pastoral Care, at Rockbridge Seminary this morning. It looks like it will be a good course.
I look forward to being with you again. I started the course, Pastoral Care, at Rockbridge Seminary this morning. It looks like it will be a good course.
Monday, October 26, 2009
New Course Starting Wednesday
We will be starting a new course Wednesday. If you would like to sign up, read the infromation on the sidebars at the left. Then send an email to rcarneysurvey@yahoo.com. We will set you up with the ability to make regular comments.
Visitors are always welcome to join the discussion too. Just click on the word, "comments" at the bottom of any post.
I will be doing double duty this time as I will also be teaching the course, Pastoral Care, for Rockbridge Seminary. To learn more about Rockbridge, click the link in the sidebar on the left.
If you would like to book Dr. Carney for a speaking event, please visit the website,
The LOVING Way to a Successful Marriage. Then send an email to rcarneysurvey@yahoo.com and put the word, "Speaking" in the subject line. (Go to the "Special Arrangements" page for a discount for churches.)
Have a great day!
Visitors are always welcome to join the discussion too. Just click on the word, "comments" at the bottom of any post.
I will be doing double duty this time as I will also be teaching the course, Pastoral Care, for Rockbridge Seminary. To learn more about Rockbridge, click the link in the sidebar on the left.
If you would like to book Dr. Carney for a speaking event, please visit the website,
The LOVING Way to a Successful Marriage. Then send an email to rcarneysurvey@yahoo.com and put the word, "Speaking" in the subject line. (Go to the "Special Arrangements" page for a discount for churches.)
Have a great day!
Tuesday, October 20, 2009
Tyler's Posting Area
Tyler, you may post your comments here while we are waiting to start the new course.
Roger and Corey, we will start a new session the day after the next Preachers Meeting.
Roger and Corey, we will start a new session the day after the next Preachers Meeting.
Monday, October 12, 2009
Course Wrap Up
For this term's course wrap up, write a summary of the course. Include any comments about things that will have the potential to help you in your ministry, or tell what you wish would have been covered in the course.
Tuesday, October 6, 2009
Monday, September 28, 2009
Course 9 Week 6 Main Comments
You may place your comments for week 6 here anytime after midnight on Monday. You have been doing a good job of carrying this by yourselves. Thank you.
I hope to see you all tomorrow night.
I hope to see you all tomorrow night.
Thursday, September 24, 2009
Course 9 Week 5 Main Comments
Please place your comments for week 5 Under "The Saftey Factor . . . " post. There is an explanation there. I hope to get back to the position of being able to post about the exclusive claims of Christianity soon.
Sunday, September 20, 2009
The Safety Factor in Making Truth Claims
We have been talking about the fact that almost every major religion makes exclusive claims to truth.
Some have said that it sounds arrogant for Christians to make the claim that Christ is exclusively the way to Heaven. While Christians certanly are capable of making arrogant statement (and capable of making a whole lot more mistakes too), that does not mean that it is not possible to make truth claims without being arrogant.
Aside from sounding arrogant, some making truth claims can be so narrow that to oppose them can be very dangerous. I know of no nation that has been heavily influenced by Christianity that puts a person's life at risk if he or she claims another religion other than Christianity. However, there are countries where it can be very dangerous for a person to convert to Christianity. Countries, such as, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and Iran, are examples of places where a person can put himself or his family at risk if he were to convert to Christianity.
The bottom line is that it is possible to talk about the truth in a loving manner. That should be the desire of all Christians.
Some have said that it sounds arrogant for Christians to make the claim that Christ is exclusively the way to Heaven. While Christians certanly are capable of making arrogant statement (and capable of making a whole lot more mistakes too), that does not mean that it is not possible to make truth claims without being arrogant.
Aside from sounding arrogant, some making truth claims can be so narrow that to oppose them can be very dangerous. I know of no nation that has been heavily influenced by Christianity that puts a person's life at risk if he or she claims another religion other than Christianity. However, there are countries where it can be very dangerous for a person to convert to Christianity. Countries, such as, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and Iran, are examples of places where a person can put himself or his family at risk if he were to convert to Christianity.
The bottom line is that it is possible to talk about the truth in a loving manner. That should be the desire of all Christians.
Friday, September 18, 2009
The Exclusive Nature of Truth Claims
Pilate, when Jesus was brought before him, asked the question, "What is truth?" That question implied his hopelessness and frustration with real meaning in life. Can we rely on anything?
Since we believe in absolute truth, we also become aware of the exclusive nature of claims to truth. Our society tries to make the claim that "Everything is relative." There is a problem with that, and we will note it in a minute. Christianity, on the other hand acknowledges that "some things are relative, and some things are absolute."
Since every major religion makes claims of exclusivity, it is not really fair to claim that Christians are arrogant when they make the claim that there is only one way to Heaven. The Christian claim is no more arrogant than the claims of the other religions.
Truth, by definition, is exclusive. If something is true, then opposing items must be false. The opposite of truth is certainly excluded by truth itself.
Some People try to deny this (that statements contrary to each other are exclusive). However, the assertions they make that are regarded as "truth" and yet are contrary to each other are nothing more than opinions. Look back at the statement made earlier: "Everything is relative." Another way of stating that principle is "There are no absolutes." Now, concerning truth, others may say "there is no exclusive nature to truth claims."
Let's look at the words that are used by those making the statements mentioned in the last paragraph. "Everything is relative." "There are no absolutes." "There is no exclusive nature to truth claims." Did you notice that those are all absolute words? They are all absolute claims.
My son puts it like this: someone says, "There are no absolutes." Then he asks, "Are you sure about that?" Then they might slip up and say, "Absolutely!"
Truth inherently is exclusive. If something is true, then something contrary to it is false.
In your comments this week, I challenge you to see how claims to truth relate to what you are studying. Tell us how truth, or surety of truth, affects preaching and doctrine.
Since we believe in absolute truth, we also become aware of the exclusive nature of claims to truth. Our society tries to make the claim that "Everything is relative." There is a problem with that, and we will note it in a minute. Christianity, on the other hand acknowledges that "some things are relative, and some things are absolute."
Since every major religion makes claims of exclusivity, it is not really fair to claim that Christians are arrogant when they make the claim that there is only one way to Heaven. The Christian claim is no more arrogant than the claims of the other religions.
Truth, by definition, is exclusive. If something is true, then opposing items must be false. The opposite of truth is certainly excluded by truth itself.
Some People try to deny this (that statements contrary to each other are exclusive). However, the assertions they make that are regarded as "truth" and yet are contrary to each other are nothing more than opinions. Look back at the statement made earlier: "Everything is relative." Another way of stating that principle is "There are no absolutes." Now, concerning truth, others may say "there is no exclusive nature to truth claims."
Let's look at the words that are used by those making the statements mentioned in the last paragraph. "Everything is relative." "There are no absolutes." "There is no exclusive nature to truth claims." Did you notice that those are all absolute words? They are all absolute claims.
My son puts it like this: someone says, "There are no absolutes." Then he asks, "Are you sure about that?" Then they might slip up and say, "Absolutely!"
Truth inherently is exclusive. If something is true, then something contrary to it is false.
In your comments this week, I challenge you to see how claims to truth relate to what you are studying. Tell us how truth, or surety of truth, affects preaching and doctrine.
Wednesday, September 16, 2009
Almost Every Major Religion Claims Exclusivity
Sikhism is a challenge to both Buddism and Hinduism. Atheism excludes many with theistic view points. Baha'ism claims to embrace offshoots of most major religions; however, while it is inclusive of many viewpoints, it does exclude others who claim to be exclusivists.
Tuesday, September 15, 2009
Hinduism Claims Exclusivity
Hindus claim to have a very tolerant faith, but when you look more into their belief system, you find that, yes, they claim to be very tolerant--as long as you buy into their belief system as it speaks of truth. What is that belief system? It is syncretism. Syncretism is the attempt to bring together different, or perhaps even apparently opposing, beliefs. So, they are intolerant to those who believe in absolute truth, such as that which is presented in the Word of God. Since they exclude others, they too claim exclusivity for their belief system.
Monday, September 14, 2009
Course 9 Week 4 Main Comment Area
You may post your comments for week 4 below anytime after 12:00 a.m. on Tuesday.
Course 9 End of Week 3
Today is the last day for week 3.
I hope you all are enjoying your study. I think that Tyler has already finshed his course on doctrines. It turned out to be much shorter than either one of us expected.
I hope you all are enjoying your study. I think that Tyler has already finshed his course on doctrines. It turned out to be much shorter than either one of us expected.
Wednesday, September 9, 2009
Course 9 Week 3 Main Comment Area
Sorry, Fellas,
I made a trip to Dunn Loring, VA, (a suburb of Washington D.C.) to speak at Jameson's (my sixth grandchild's) baby dedication service. On our way home on Sunday evening, the fuel pump went out on our car. We were towed to a town about 18 miles back down the road. We could not get anyone to work on the car until Tuesday.
I will extend the deadlines for the bonuses by two days for each one, but we will still try to end the week on Monday.
Tyler, the comments you made on the Muslim's Claim to exclusivity posting area, will count. Roger and Corey, if you have already made some in another posting area (like last week's), they will count already too.
All new comments should be placed below.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
I made a trip to Dunn Loring, VA, (a suburb of Washington D.C.) to speak at Jameson's (my sixth grandchild's) baby dedication service. On our way home on Sunday evening, the fuel pump went out on our car. We were towed to a town about 18 miles back down the road. We could not get anyone to work on the car until Tuesday.
I will extend the deadlines for the bonuses by two days for each one, but we will still try to end the week on Monday.
Tyler, the comments you made on the Muslim's Claim to exclusivity posting area, will count. Roger and Corey, if you have already made some in another posting area (like last week's), they will count already too.
All new comments should be placed below.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Friday, September 4, 2009
Muslims Claim Exclusivity
We have been talking about the fact that Christianity is not the only religion that claims to have an "only way" to God.
Muslims claim to have the truth. They believe, if I understand it correctly, that the Koran gives the only truth about such matters; however, they believe that translations of the Koran only corrupt the truth. So, if you really want to know the truth, you must understand Arabic and study the Koran in that language. Also, you must have an advanced standing when it comes to comprehending the Arabic language.
I mention these other claims to exclusivity as a foundation for saying that if you want to include some of them as having another way to God, there is a problem with that as far as what they claim themselves. They would not accept the other ways (other than what their claims are).
Muslims claim to have the truth. They believe, if I understand it correctly, that the Koran gives the only truth about such matters; however, they believe that translations of the Koran only corrupt the truth. So, if you really want to know the truth, you must understand Arabic and study the Koran in that language. Also, you must have an advanced standing when it comes to comprehending the Arabic language.
I mention these other claims to exclusivity as a foundation for saying that if you want to include some of them as having another way to God, there is a problem with that as far as what they claim themselves. They would not accept the other ways (other than what their claims are).
Thursday, September 3, 2009
Exclusivity Seems Offensive
A claim to exclusivity when, it comes to getting to Heaven, seems offensive in our culture of relativism. A buzz word of the day is that of "pluralism." Religious pluralism means respect for all religions.
While we respect all religions, it really is not fair to say that "anything will work." If I wanted to go from here (Illinois) to Atlanta, GA, I would need to go east. Someone would say you cannot get there by going west if you stay in the United States. Others would make a case that if you kept going west (outside of the United States and all the way around the world), you could eventually get to Georgia. (Of course, you would have to go a little south too.)
If you went straight north or south you would never get there. It would not matter whether saying that was offensive or not. You just would not get there. All roads do not lead to Atlanta.
While there may be more than one way of getting to Atlanta, we do have to agree that not all roads lead to Atlanta.
Likewise, not all religions get to heaven. Especially if they have contradictory points. This does not prove there is only one way, but it does narrow things somewhat. The question is, "how far are things narrowed down?" That is the question with which the Bible deals.
While we respect all religions, it really is not fair to say that "anything will work." If I wanted to go from here (Illinois) to Atlanta, GA, I would need to go east. Someone would say you cannot get there by going west if you stay in the United States. Others would make a case that if you kept going west (outside of the United States and all the way around the world), you could eventually get to Georgia. (Of course, you would have to go a little south too.)
If you went straight north or south you would never get there. It would not matter whether saying that was offensive or not. You just would not get there. All roads do not lead to Atlanta.
While there may be more than one way of getting to Atlanta, we do have to agree that not all roads lead to Atlanta.
Likewise, not all religions get to heaven. Especially if they have contradictory points. This does not prove there is only one way, but it does narrow things somewhat. The question is, "how far are things narrowed down?" That is the question with which the Bible deals.
Tuesday, September 1, 2009
Christianity's Claims to Exclusivity
While you are going through your materials this time, I plan to do some study on Christianity's claims to Exclusity. Christianity sometimes comes under fire because of its claims that Jesus is the only way to Heaven. This is often done in such a way to makes it appear that Christianity is the only religion that makes such claims.
But, is this really the case?
I will share with you some of the things I find out.
But, is this really the case?
I will share with you some of the things I find out.
Monday, August 31, 2009
Couse 9 Week 2 Main Comment Area
You may use this area to make your comments starting anytime on Tuesday (after midnight on Monday).
I will try to join in better with you next week.
Again, good job, for each of you getting started.
I will try to join in better with you next week.
Again, good job, for each of you getting started.
Cpourse 9 Week 1 Last Day
Today marks the end of week 1.
All of you did a good job getting startecd. Your goal was to make 9 comments this week. Count them and see if you need any more.
Tomorrow starts a regular week. Read over the requirements again, and take off for week 2.
Anyone wanting to join us as a regular participant must do so by tonight or tomorrow. Others, of course, are welcome to join the discussion by commenting on our posts.
All of you did a good job getting startecd. Your goal was to make 9 comments this week. Count them and see if you need any more.
Tomorrow starts a regular week. Read over the requirements again, and take off for week 2.
Anyone wanting to join us as a regular participant must do so by tonight or tomorrow. Others, of course, are welcome to join the discussion by commenting on our posts.
Thursday, August 27, 2009
New Materials
So far, we know that we are going to be dealing with doctrines and preaching. One of the ways of dealin with the doctrinal issues is to major on them as they relate to orthodox Christianity in general, and to learn from the denominational distinctives that are presented too.
Sean emailed me and said he will be sitting out this time. Corey is gone for a few days, but he hopes to be able to give several posts this weekend or at least on Monday.
I think I emailed your transcripts to you. If you did not get them, please let me know.
Again, it is a great time to solidify your thought on doctrines and to learn great communication tips for preaching.
Sean emailed me and said he will be sitting out this time. Corey is gone for a few days, but he hopes to be able to give several posts this weekend or at least on Monday.
I think I emailed your transcripts to you. If you did not get them, please let me know.
Again, it is a great time to solidify your thought on doctrines and to learn great communication tips for preaching.
Wednesday, August 26, 2009
Course 9 Week 1
Enter your posts for week 1 in the comments section below this post.
This week, as usual, is an introduction week. Please try to introduce yourself. If you have done that before, you may paste it in here again, or you may tell us something else about yourself.
Your first or second post should include the title of your book or DVD course. Then list the table of contents from the book (or at least the chapter titles of all the chapters if it has an expanded table of contents.)
You will try to make 9 or more posts this week. They can basically be about anything, but they need to be at least 3 sentences long to count toward the 9. You can make other posts that are shorter than that, but they won't count toward the minimum requirements.
Anyone is welcome to join us this week if he has a book that he would like to study. Just send an email to rcarneysurey@yahoo.come, and we will set things up.
This week, as usual, is an introduction week. Please try to introduce yourself. If you have done that before, you may paste it in here again, or you may tell us something else about yourself.
Your first or second post should include the title of your book or DVD course. Then list the table of contents from the book (or at least the chapter titles of all the chapters if it has an expanded table of contents.)
You will try to make 9 or more posts this week. They can basically be about anything, but they need to be at least 3 sentences long to count toward the 9. You can make other posts that are shorter than that, but they won't count toward the minimum requirements.
Anyone is welcome to join us this week if he has a book that he would like to study. Just send an email to rcarneysurey@yahoo.come, and we will set things up.
Thursday, July 23, 2009
Taking Off a Little While
Our next local Preachers Meeting will be in August. We will rest a little and regroup then. In the mean time, I will periodically put some posts on various topics here.
Have a great summer.
Have a great summer.
Friday, July 17, 2009
On Our Way Home
This is late Friday night, July 17. I am able to hook up in our motel room.
We had a great couple of weeks (9 days of church services and teaching seminars). About 20 people (probably more) made professions of faith in Christ this week! It is great to see people recognize their need of Christ and come to Him.
I guess this is the last week of this course, ending on Monday. I will try to catch up emailing your previous grades before then.
I heard that Roger acknowledged his call to preach at Unity last Wednesday night. Praise the Lord!
We will probably be home tomorrow afternoon. Lot's of catcvhing up to do. Hope you all are doing well.
We had a great couple of weeks (9 days of church services and teaching seminars). About 20 people (probably more) made professions of faith in Christ this week! It is great to see people recognize their need of Christ and come to Him.
I guess this is the last week of this course, ending on Monday. I will try to catch up emailing your previous grades before then.
I heard that Roger acknowledged his call to preach at Unity last Wednesday night. Praise the Lord!
We will probably be home tomorrow afternoon. Lot's of catcvhing up to do. Hope you all are doing well.
Sunday, July 12, 2009
Several Services
Hi, Guys,
We have had three services at Pastor Antonio's church. (Bro. Roger, you will remember Pastor Antonio as being the head of the orphange we visited that had the banana tree in the front yard.)
Last night, we had our first service at Pastor Jose's church. (Bro. Roger, he was the pastor (under Bro. Carlos) of the church where we had the service in the open air. His church is now where Pastor Carlos' used to be.)
There were six salvations or decisions for Christ last night, with many more coming for prayer. In all, we estimate about ten salvations, or at least decisions that appeard to be salvations, on this trip.
Hope things are going well.
Tomorrow is when I start the first of three days of seminars for pastors. I may not be able to get back online until Thursday or Friday. I may not even to get to read all your posts today. I hope you are discussing among yourselves and finding the posting areas O.K.
Catch you later!
We have had three services at Pastor Antonio's church. (Bro. Roger, you will remember Pastor Antonio as being the head of the orphange we visited that had the banana tree in the front yard.)
Last night, we had our first service at Pastor Jose's church. (Bro. Roger, he was the pastor (under Bro. Carlos) of the church where we had the service in the open air. His church is now where Pastor Carlos' used to be.)
There were six salvations or decisions for Christ last night, with many more coming for prayer. In all, we estimate about ten salvations, or at least decisions that appeard to be salvations, on this trip.
Hope things are going well.
Tomorrow is when I start the first of three days of seminars for pastors. I may not be able to get back online until Thursday or Friday. I may not even to get to read all your posts today. I hope you are discussing among yourselves and finding the posting areas O.K.
Catch you later!
Thursday, July 9, 2009
Church Service
We had our first service last night at Pastor Antonio Ramirez' church in Acuna, Mexico. Bro. Roger did a good job of preaching with a new interpreter. He spoke on the subject of "Who Jesus Is." We prayed with serveral Christians for various needs after the service. Pray for tonight's service.
We had probably between 55 and 60 there. The building, like many down here, had no air condintioning, and I'm sure the temperature earlier in the day had been over 100 degrees! We took bottled water in with us, and we all seem to be doing O.K. today.
We had probably between 55 and 60 there. The building, like many down here, had no air condintioning, and I'm sure the temperature earlier in the day had been over 100 degrees! We took bottled water in with us, and we all seem to be doing O.K. today.
Wednesday, July 8, 2009
Del Rio
We have made it to Del Rio, TX.
We will have our first church service here tonight. Be praying for Roger Odom, who will be bringing the message. I got on at the library in town. Keep conversing with each other, and I will check in when I can.
We will have our first church service here tonight. Be praying for Roger Odom, who will be bringing the message. I got on at the library in town. Keep conversing with each other, and I will check in when I can.
Monday, July 6, 2009
Sulphur Springs
We made it to Sulphur Springs, TX, today. Tomorrow, we should make it to Del Rio, TX, and the rest of the time we will be crossing the border quite a bit to minister in Acuna, Mexico. We will be involved in revival/evangelistic meetings at three different churches, and we will have a seminar for pastors while we are there.
I hope things are going well for all of you.
I hope things are going well for all of you.
Sunday, July 5, 2009
Scroll Down
I have put up posting areas for the next two weeks. Scroll down to find the appropriate places to put your posts, depending on what date you are posting.
Have a great finish to the course. I will touch base with you when, or if, I can.
Have a great finish to the course. I will touch base with you when, or if, I can.
Course 8 Week 8 Course Wrap Up
Anytime during July 14-20, place your course wrap up, which is worth 4 points, in the comments section below.
Anwer these questions:
1. What was your book or course about as a whole? Try to state what it was about in one comeplete sentence (or at least a short paragraph if you cannot do one sentence.)
2. What were the major parts of the course? Tell what the themes of major sections of the book were.
3. What were some of the important words in the book? List at least three. Without looking at a dictionary. Tell what you thought they meant when you first read them. Optional: Tell what they seem to mean as the author uses them. Then (not optional) look them up in a dictionary and tell which dictionary meaning seemed to be closest to what your guess was as to what the word meant.
4. Evaluate the book according to its practical application. Tell how this book has helped you in your ministry, or how you think it may help you in your future ministry. If you don't think it will help, tell why you think that.
Anwer these questions:
1. What was your book or course about as a whole? Try to state what it was about in one comeplete sentence (or at least a short paragraph if you cannot do one sentence.)
2. What were the major parts of the course? Tell what the themes of major sections of the book were.
3. What were some of the important words in the book? List at least three. Without looking at a dictionary. Tell what you thought they meant when you first read them. Optional: Tell what they seem to mean as the author uses them. Then (not optional) look them up in a dictionary and tell which dictionary meaning seemed to be closest to what your guess was as to what the word meant.
4. Evaluate the book according to its practical application. Tell how this book has helped you in your ministry, or how you think it may help you in your future ministry. If you don't think it will help, tell why you think that.
Course 8 Week 8 Main Posting Area
You may place your first question here anytime on July 14-16.
You may place your answers to questions as well as your other regular posts here anytime on July 14-20.
You may place your answers to questions as well as your other regular posts here anytime on July 14-20.
Course 8 Week 8 Initial Posts
You may place your first two posts for week 9 here anytime on Tuesday and Wednesday, July 14 and 15.
Course 8 Week 7 Main Posting Area
Besides your first two posts, please place your first question here anytime on July 7-9. You may also place your answers to those questions as well as the rest of your regular posts any time during July 7-13.
Course 8 Week 7 Initial Posts
Please place your initial posts for week 7 here on Tuesday and Wednesday, July 7th and 8th.
Posting areas
I am going to put up the next two sets of posting areas. I will be in Mexico the next two weeks, so I am not sur how often I will be able to get online, if at all.
Stever Arnold and I will be accompanying Roger Odom of the Many Hands of Christ mission ministry. We will be involved in revival meetings at three different churches and a seminar for Pastors.
You all know what to do, so discuss your materials among yourselves.
Stever Arnold and I will be accompanying Roger Odom of the Many Hands of Christ mission ministry. We will be involved in revival meetings at three different churches and a seminar for Pastors.
You all know what to do, so discuss your materials among yourselves.
Wednesday, July 1, 2009
Handling Crises
Roger's book spoke of many men of God who handled crises in their lives in such a way that those crises drew them closer to God. (Please understand that they may not have always handled all of them well, but at least some of the crises in thier lives were handled well by them in such a way that they were drawn closer to the Lord.)
Can you think of a time in your life when a crisis brought your closer to God?
Can you think of a time in your life when a crisis brought your closer to God?
Tuesday, June 30, 2009
Paul's Letters
The letters the apostle Paul wrote are such a blessing to us. They contain deep theological truths coupled with practical living. One of the best descriptions of the process of salvation is found in several Scriptures in the book of Romans.
His letters also emphasize that salvation is by grace through faith. Praise God for His wonderful grace!
His letters also emphasize that salvation is by grace through faith. Praise God for His wonderful grace!
Monday, June 29, 2009
Course 8 Week 6 First Question
Please place your first question for week 6 in the comments section below.
You may use this area after 12:01 a.m. of Tuesday, June 30.
You may use this area after 12:01 a.m. of Tuesday, June 30.
Course 8 Week 6 Initial Posts
Please place your first two posts for week six in the comments sections below:
You may use this area after 12:01 a.m. of Tuesday, June 30.
You may use this area after 12:01 a.m. of Tuesday, June 30.
Course 8 Week 6 Main Posting Area
This week, place your initial posts in another place. Also post one question in another place. Then place all of your other posts in the comments sections below.
You may use this area after 12:01 a.m. of Tuesday, June 30.
You may use this area after 12:01 a.m. of Tuesday, June 30.
Focusing on the Homegoing
Today was the funeral for George Flanagan.
For nearly two years, he was married to my Aunt June. Though he was not doing well physically, these last few were some of the best of his life--as far as having a relationship with the Lord goes. He and his wife, June, had devotions twice a day. In the morning, he would tell about what he had been reading. In the evening, she would tell about what she had been reading (both books were devotional books.)
Some of you are talking about the characteristics of a man whom God uses. A strong devotional life could be one of those characteristics.
For nearly two years, he was married to my Aunt June. Though he was not doing well physically, these last few were some of the best of his life--as far as having a relationship with the Lord goes. He and his wife, June, had devotions twice a day. In the morning, he would tell about what he had been reading. In the evening, she would tell about what she had been reading (both books were devotional books.)
Some of you are talking about the characteristics of a man whom God uses. A strong devotional life could be one of those characteristics.
Sunday, June 28, 2009
Sunday
Today, I preached at God's Tree of Life in Pittsburg, IL.
This afternoon, we had a meeting for the workers for Camp Jericho.
Tonight, we went to Busby Chapel Free Will Baptist near Goreville, IL. I preached and Ralanna, Rhonda and I sang. The chuch took up an unexpected offering for us. Praise the Lord that moves us to having about 70% of what we need for the Mexico trip coming up in July.
It was a good day. We have our daughter, Ralanna, from Nashville, TN, and her two daughters, visiting with us. Of course, Grammy and Grandad are loving that.
This afternoon, we had a meeting for the workers for Camp Jericho.
Tonight, we went to Busby Chapel Free Will Baptist near Goreville, IL. I preached and Ralanna, Rhonda and I sang. The chuch took up an unexpected offering for us. Praise the Lord that moves us to having about 70% of what we need for the Mexico trip coming up in July.
It was a good day. We have our daughter, Ralanna, from Nashville, TN, and her two daughters, visiting with us. Of course, Grammy and Grandad are loving that.
Saturday, June 27, 2009
A Homegoing and a Sunday School Record
My uncle by marriage, George Flanagan, passed away yesterday. His funeral will be at Mt. Zion on Monday morning at 11:00. Visitation will be at 10:00. His pastor from South Carolina will be here to preach the service.
Tomorrow will mark the Sunday that my aunt June will have been in Sunday school for 73 consecutive years. I don't know if that is a world record, but it is certainly remarkable. George had encouraged her to go ahead and go to Sunday school on that day, no matter what happened.
May the Lord grant us the grace such that our loved ones will no where we have gone when the valley of death casts its shadow. Praise the Lord.
Tomorrow will mark the Sunday that my aunt June will have been in Sunday school for 73 consecutive years. I don't know if that is a world record, but it is certainly remarkable. George had encouraged her to go ahead and go to Sunday school on that day, no matter what happened.
May the Lord grant us the grace such that our loved ones will no where we have gone when the valley of death casts its shadow. Praise the Lord.
Tuesday, June 23, 2009
Course 8 Begining of Week 5
Hi, Guys,
I enjoyed learning how to put up the videos. I liked the smile that was frozen on the first one better than the look of intent (some might mistake it for a frown :) Ha, on the second one.
My ISP has been down for a while. I hope getting this posting area up on Tuesday afternoon will be O.K. for you. If it caused a problem, let me know.
Otherwise, we will all try to catch up. I know Corey is having computer problems, but he was able to get on and make at least one comment.
I enjoyed learning how to put up the videos. I liked the smile that was frozen on the first one better than the look of intent (some might mistake it for a frown :) Ha, on the second one.
My ISP has been down for a while. I hope getting this posting area up on Tuesday afternoon will be O.K. for you. If it caused a problem, let me know.
Otherwise, we will all try to catch up. I know Corey is having computer problems, but he was able to get on and make at least one comment.
Course 8 week 5 Main Posting Area
Please place your comments for week five in the comments section below.
Monday, June 22, 2009
Saturday, June 20, 2009
Friday, June 19, 2009
More Reluctant Leadership--Response Postings
In the continuation of our discussion this week, include in your answers to each other, comments in the main posting area, or in the comments section below, more discussion of reluctant leadership.
How have you experienced this? How have you overcome it in the past? If you are comfortable, you culd even tell what you may be struggling with now (but that's not requred.) Those are some ideas for taking this dicussion to anoter level.
Hava a great day.
How have you experienced this? How have you overcome it in the past? If you are comfortable, you culd even tell what you may be struggling with now (but that's not requred.) Those are some ideas for taking this dicussion to anoter level.
Hava a great day.
Thursday, June 18, 2009
Relucant Leaders
Corey said of Moses, "[Phillip Yancey] compares Moses to people who took over when communism fell in some places in asia and Europe, and when Czechoslovakia split. Explaining how Moses was a reluctant leader."
Sean also spoke of Moses and compared him to Joshua, saying, "[The chapter he read] spoke of how God had to somewhat encourage Moses to lead at first, he hesitated. But Joshua immediately answered and took action. Maybe he learned it from Moses that its best to act quickly when the Lord asks."
When God gives us opportunities, are we quick to make excuses, or are we more like Joshua. Which is better--to make a mistake by jumping and trying to serve the Lord when the opportunity presents itself, or to hold off saying we are not sure we should do what the opportunity presents?
If you are honestly trying to serve the Lord, don't you think that he can make His direction clear while you are trying to do something for Him? If you are supposed to do something and are not doing it, is it possible that the opportunities presented to you will become less. To him who knows to do good, and does not do it, it is sin. Which is better to jump in with the slightest inkling of light or direction you have, or to to keep not responding using your unsureness as an excuse?
Hopefully you don't have to make that choice, but I think we should try to respond with a willing heart when God presents us with opportunitiess--all the while asking Him to confirm His will. Sometimes it may take months for God's confirmation to fully come through. How much lost ministry would happen during that time--if you had failed to serve when an opportunity was given you?
On the other hand, when you are serving with a willing heart, the confirmation comes little by little, or God will give you a new direction just as you need it. In that case, ministry has taken place. Which is better--to serve while trying to get clear confirmation--or to avoid serving while trying to get confirmation?
We do want to be perfectly within God's will in any case, but I caution us to not use the excuse of "unsureness" to avoid the next step God would have us to take within our lives.
Sean also spoke of Moses and compared him to Joshua, saying, "[The chapter he read] spoke of how God had to somewhat encourage Moses to lead at first, he hesitated. But Joshua immediately answered and took action. Maybe he learned it from Moses that its best to act quickly when the Lord asks."
When God gives us opportunities, are we quick to make excuses, or are we more like Joshua. Which is better--to make a mistake by jumping and trying to serve the Lord when the opportunity presents itself, or to hold off saying we are not sure we should do what the opportunity presents?
If you are honestly trying to serve the Lord, don't you think that he can make His direction clear while you are trying to do something for Him? If you are supposed to do something and are not doing it, is it possible that the opportunities presented to you will become less. To him who knows to do good, and does not do it, it is sin. Which is better to jump in with the slightest inkling of light or direction you have, or to to keep not responding using your unsureness as an excuse?
Hopefully you don't have to make that choice, but I think we should try to respond with a willing heart when God presents us with opportunitiess--all the while asking Him to confirm His will. Sometimes it may take months for God's confirmation to fully come through. How much lost ministry would happen during that time--if you had failed to serve when an opportunity was given you?
On the other hand, when you are serving with a willing heart, the confirmation comes little by little, or God will give you a new direction just as you need it. In that case, ministry has taken place. Which is better--to serve while trying to get clear confirmation--or to avoid serving while trying to get confirmation?
We do want to be perfectly within God's will in any case, but I caution us to not use the excuse of "unsureness" to avoid the next step God would have us to take within our lives.
Wednesday, June 17, 2009
The Drive for Evangelism
Tyler talked about the churches that were growing. He said that one of the things that characterized them was their focus on leading others to Christ. It was seen it that everything they did was either directly, or indirectly, related to this focus.
Let's have a drive within ourselves to see others come to Christ.
Let's have a drive within ourselves to see others come to Christ.
Monday, June 15, 2009
How God Shapes Our Lives
Bro. Roger said,"There are many ways God shapes us. He can shape us through life experiences whether good or bad he can use those time to shape us. He can shape us through blessings,through a crisis, or through tragedies. As a matter of fact God can use anything that happens in our lives to shape us. The question is, are you shapable? The key to being shapable is the condition of your heart."
I pray that our hearts will be "shapable"!
I pray that our hearts will be "shapable"!
Sunday, June 14, 2009
Man Goes to His Long Home
I am preaching at Union today for their homecoming.
Ecclesiastes tells us that man goes to his long home. That long home is eternity.
It's important to know that that will be a good experience as opposed to a bad one. Thank the Lord that He provided a way for us to enter in Heaven and our eternal long home will be a good one!
Ecclesiastes tells us that man goes to his long home. That long home is eternity.
It's important to know that that will be a good experience as opposed to a bad one. Thank the Lord that He provided a way for us to enter in Heaven and our eternal long home will be a good one!
Friday, June 12, 2009
Response Postings
I usually am encouraged to encourage you to take things to a deeper level. What is the most profound, most important, or most practical idea that comes to you because of this study (can relate to other students' books as well as your own.
Wednesday, June 10, 2009
The Childhood of Jesus
We don't know much from the Bible about the childhood of Jesus other than the time Joseph and Mary missed him on their journey and went back and found Him teaching in the temple. However, there may have been some clues from historical studies about the culture of that day. Do any of your books give much information on this topic?
Tuesday, June 9, 2009
Course 8 Week 3
We have completed the first quarter of our course. Now we move into the second quarter.
What has stood out to you the most so far from what you have been studying? It could be new information that has come your way, or it could be something that you think you will try to apply in a very practical way.
What has stood out to you the most so far from what you have been studying? It could be new information that has come your way, or it could be something that you think you will try to apply in a very practical way.
Monday, June 8, 2009
Course 8 Week 3 Main Posting Area
You may use the comments section below for your comments for week three after midnight on Monday, June 8.
Course 8 Week 2 Last Day
This is the last day for comments for week 2. You have until midnight tonight to get in any further comments to count toward this week.
Your comments have been especially good this week. Keep up the good work.
Visitors are always welcome to join in the conversation. Just click on the word, "commente" below any main post. Each week, there is a post called the main posting area. That is where most of the discussion takes place.
Your comments have been especially good this week. Keep up the good work.
Visitors are always welcome to join in the conversation. Just click on the word, "commente" below any main post. Each week, there is a post called the main posting area. That is where most of the discussion takes place.
Sunday, June 7, 2009
Union--Relationships
I preached at Union, near Thompsonville, IL, this morning.
We had been talking about relationships. I often give a testimony about events leading up to my profession of faith in Christ. One of those events involves a conversation between two young men about their assurance of salvation. I walked away from the conversation without joining in because I did not have anything to say about my assurance of salvation. Later that week, the Lord used that memory of that conversation to bring me to Him.
One of those young men attended Union at that time.
I am scheduled to preach again at Union for their Homecoming next Sunday morning.
We had been talking about relationships. I often give a testimony about events leading up to my profession of faith in Christ. One of those events involves a conversation between two young men about their assurance of salvation. I walked away from the conversation without joining in because I did not have anything to say about my assurance of salvation. Later that week, the Lord used that memory of that conversation to bring me to Him.
One of those young men attended Union at that time.
I am scheduled to preach again at Union for their Homecoming next Sunday morning.
Saturday, June 6, 2009
Exclusivist!
Christianity is sometimes when the exclusivist postion is taken, but many fail to recognize that most religions have an element of exclusivity.
Jesus is the only way to Heaven, but "the grace of God hath appeared to all men." That makes things fair and makes it so that anyone has a chance. That is inclusive, but it is often left out in some discussions.
Salvation is by grace through faith in Jesus Christ and His finished work on the cross. Without exercising faith in Christ, there is no basis for a biblical assurance of salvation.
Jesus is the only way to Heaven, but "the grace of God hath appeared to all men." That makes things fair and makes it so that anyone has a chance. That is inclusive, but it is often left out in some discussions.
Salvation is by grace through faith in Jesus Christ and His finished work on the cross. Without exercising faith in Christ, there is no basis for a biblical assurance of salvation.
Friday, June 5, 2009
Relationships--Response Postings
Here is a copy of my response to Tyler earlier this week.
"57 % is a clear majority. Isn't it, Tyler. That many say that relationships had a part in getting them to come to church.
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What about all of us? Did relationships play a part in our coming to church--or did we decide to attend a church from some other reason?"
"In my case, of course, my parents took me to church--so, relationships played a part. Another thing, though, is that one of my best friends in grade school attended our church. Another one attended church, just a couple of miles further away. After that, my circle of friends seemed to be formed from people (kids) whose families went to church."
For this week, along with your regular posts, give us an example of how relationships played a part in our coming to the church we attend (if they did). You may place those posts below this one or in the main posting area.
"57 % is a clear majority. Isn't it, Tyler. That many say that relationships had a part in getting them to come to church.
"
What about all of us? Did relationships play a part in our coming to church--or did we decide to attend a church from some other reason?"
"In my case, of course, my parents took me to church--so, relationships played a part. Another thing, though, is that one of my best friends in grade school attended our church. Another one attended church, just a couple of miles further away. After that, my circle of friends seemed to be formed from people (kids) whose families went to church."
For this week, along with your regular posts, give us an example of how relationships played a part in our coming to the church we attend (if they did). You may place those posts below this one or in the main posting area.
Thursday, June 4, 2009
Our Questions
One of the weekly requirements is to ask your fellow students questions.
Since we are all posting in the same area, I want us to be aware of the questions asked. The following items need to be responded to in the posting area. (You may have to copy and paste to refresh us on what question you are asking.)
Here are the questions so far:
What about all of us? Did relationships play a part in our coming to church--or did we decide to attend a church from some other reason?
I feel I've been fortunate to be a part of a church that has been growing. I could agree with what the book said. But my question is, whats the formula to keep it going?
I hope that I can be better at getting to know people that I don't know that well. What do you guys think about ways we can help our churches grow?
Since we are all posting in the same area, I want us to be aware of the questions asked. The following items need to be responded to in the posting area. (You may have to copy and paste to refresh us on what question you are asking.)
Here are the questions so far:
What about all of us? Did relationships play a part in our coming to church--or did we decide to attend a church from some other reason?
I feel I've been fortunate to be a part of a church that has been growing. I could agree with what the book said. But my question is, whats the formula to keep it going?
I hope that I can be better at getting to know people that I don't know that well. What do you guys think about ways we can help our churches grow?
Wednesday, June 3, 2009
Taking the Gospel into All the World
Today, my wife and I took Evangelist and Mrs. Larry and Ginger Sauvageot to the airport, where they departed to New Zealand. They will be there for a couple of months, and then they will go on to Australia. They have family in Australia, but the New Zealand opportunity came through other contacts. They are faithful to go where the Lord leads, but Bro. Larry has a heart for Revival to take place in the United States of America.
In a little over a month, I will be leaving with the Many Hands of Christ ministry to go to Acuna, (pronounced, "Uh-coon-ya") Mexico. Among other preaching or speaking opportunities, I will be teaching a seminar for a group of local pastors on their requested topic of "Faith."
We should take what opportunites we can to share the Gospel--whether in our hometown or as far as the Lord will let us travel.
We also can be involved by sending as well as going personally.
If the Lord impresses you to help with this trip to Mexico, send an email to rcarneysurvey@yahoo.com, and I will give further details as to how you can do that.
May the Lord bless all of you in your ministries as you share the Gospel!
In a little over a month, I will be leaving with the Many Hands of Christ ministry to go to Acuna, (pronounced, "Uh-coon-ya") Mexico. Among other preaching or speaking opportunities, I will be teaching a seminar for a group of local pastors on their requested topic of "Faith."
We should take what opportunites we can to share the Gospel--whether in our hometown or as far as the Lord will let us travel.
We also can be involved by sending as well as going personally.
If the Lord impresses you to help with this trip to Mexico, send an email to rcarneysurvey@yahoo.com, and I will give further details as to how you can do that.
May the Lord bless all of you in your ministries as you share the Gospel!
Tuesday, June 2, 2009
Course 8 Week 2 Main Posting Area
Everyone posting in the same area seemed to work last week, so we will continue to do that.
Course 8 Week 2
This is the beginning of week 2. We got used to posting last week. This week academic posts of 3 or more sentences will earn points according to the course guidelines.
Monday, June 1, 2009
Course 8 End of Week 1
We are off to a good start, with everyone weighing in this first week. The week ends at midnight tonight, so if you need to make somre posts, go ahead and get them in. Otherwise, I look forward to the dicussion for the rest of the course.
Friday, May 29, 2009
This Term's Topics
Church Growth
Old Testament Survey: Poetry and Prophecy
The New Testament: Its Background and Message
The Bible Jesus Read
Those are what we are studying this time. Three books about the Bible and one practical ministry book.
Old Testament Survey: Poetry and Prophecy
The New Testament: Its Background and Message
The Bible Jesus Read
Those are what we are studying this time. Three books about the Bible and one practical ministry book.
Thursday, May 28, 2009
Thanks for the Introductions
Thanks for the introductions. I think it is great that the Lord will use us in whatever way he sees fit. May the Lord bless our study this time.
Wednesday, May 27, 2009
Course 8 Week 1 Main Comments Area
Please post your introductions (unless you did it under the other post), initial comments, questions, social comments, jokes, etc. in the section below.
This term we are going to try to have your comments all mixed together, just to see how that will work. If it does not work well, we will go back to setting up your individual topic areas.
This term we are going to try to have your comments all mixed together, just to see how that will work. If it does not work well, we will go back to setting up your individual topic areas.
Course 8 Week 1
As always, our first week is an introduction week.
We often use it to just get used to posting and finding our way around.
Most of us have already introduced ourselves several times. You may go back and find an earlier inroduction and just copy and paste it here again. You do need to have one comment telling about yourself.
I have been involved in a writing/speaking/missions ministry for the last several weeks. It has been great to see the Lord provide our needs during this time. Also, a possible trip to Mexico now really is planned for July 6-18th. That's a little about me. What about you?
If you want to start with your book this week. Divide the number of chapters in the book by 8, and that will tell you how many to deal with this week. If you wish to wait till next week to start on it, you will have to divide the number of chapters by 7 at the beginning of that week.
Your first post for you book should give the title of the book and the chapter titles (like the table of contents.) When everyone does this, we have an idea of the overview of each think you are studying.
Basically, though, this week, any comment you make that is 3 or more sentences long will earn points.
So, have fun. Give testimonies. Share prayer requests. "Razz" each other.
We often use it to just get used to posting and finding our way around.
Most of us have already introduced ourselves several times. You may go back and find an earlier inroduction and just copy and paste it here again. You do need to have one comment telling about yourself.
I have been involved in a writing/speaking/missions ministry for the last several weeks. It has been great to see the Lord provide our needs during this time. Also, a possible trip to Mexico now really is planned for July 6-18th. That's a little about me. What about you?
If you want to start with your book this week. Divide the number of chapters in the book by 8, and that will tell you how many to deal with this week. If you wish to wait till next week to start on it, you will have to divide the number of chapters by 7 at the beginning of that week.
Your first post for you book should give the title of the book and the chapter titles (like the table of contents.) When everyone does this, we have an idea of the overview of each think you are studying.
Basically, though, this week, any comment you make that is 3 or more sentences long will earn points.
So, have fun. Give testimonies. Share prayer requests. "Razz" each other.
Monday, May 25, 2009
Course 7--Last Day!
This is the last day of course 7. All posts need to be in by midnight.
It has been good to have all of you participating. We will start again on Course 8 this Wednesday.
I trust your study has been a blessing this term.
It has been good to have all of you participating. We will start again on Course 8 this Wednesday.
I trust your study has been a blessing this term.
Sunday, May 24, 2009
Winding up--the practical issues.
Roger and Corey, your courses were a little more on the technical side of things, while, Sean and Tyler, yours were a little more on the practical side of things. However, everything we study can make a difference. As a result of taking your courses, what difference will what you have learned make in yours or someone else's lives? Or, what difference CAN what you have learned make, even if it is not something you can immediately put into practice?
Was there anything you learned that you put into practice in your own ministry during the last eight weeks?
Is there anything on the topics covered that you wish the author or instructor would have covered in more detail? If so, what?
If you would like, you can incoporate some of this thinking into your final comments for this week.
Was there anything you learned that you put into practice in your own ministry during the last eight weeks?
Is there anything on the topics covered that you wish the author or instructor would have covered in more detail? If so, what?
If you would like, you can incoporate some of this thinking into your final comments for this week.
Friday, May 22, 2009
New Course
It will be time to start a new course next Wednesday. I look forward to the "live" preachers' meeting Tuesday night. The last one, where the deacons joined us was great! Bro. Andy Lee will be teaching this time.
Let me know if you need a break or if you will continue on the next term.
Let me know if you need a break or if you will continue on the next term.
Tuesday, May 19, 2009
Course 7 Wrap Up
Here is your assignment for the course wrap up.
Answer the following four questions.
1. In your own words of one sentence (or a very short paragraph), what was your course about as a whole?
2. What were three important words in your course?
3. What did you think those words meant before you looked them up in the dictionary? Did your thinking about the meaning of the word change as you went through the course? If so, give your changed definition. What dictionary definition seemed to be closes to your guess for the meaning for each word. Do this for each of three words.
4. What were the major parts of this course for you? (How was the marerial divided up? Don't divide and divide. You should be able to identify any where from 2 to 7 major divisions in your course material. If you need help with this one, email me.
Place your finished course wrap-up assignments in the comments section below. This is worth four points.
Answer the following four questions.
1. In your own words of one sentence (or a very short paragraph), what was your course about as a whole?
2. What were three important words in your course?
3. What did you think those words meant before you looked them up in the dictionary? Did your thinking about the meaning of the word change as you went through the course? If so, give your changed definition. What dictionary definition seemed to be closes to your guess for the meaning for each word. Do this for each of three words.
4. What were the major parts of this course for you? (How was the marerial divided up? Don't divide and divide. You should be able to identify any where from 2 to 7 major divisions in your course material. If you need help with this one, email me.
Place your finished course wrap-up assignments in the comments section below. This is worth four points.
Week 8 Corey, Roger, Sean, and Tyler's Posts
This week, I am asking all of you to post under this section. Place your initial posts, questions and answers to questions here.
Course 7 Week 8
Hello, Everyone,
I am trying to send you emails that will catch up informatin about your grades.
This week, you will need to do your two initial posts as always. This should finish up your materials. Ask a question early in the week. We need all those bonus points!
If you have not completed the "word-detective assignment" for this term yet, you need to do that this week.
I am trying to send you emails that will catch up informatin about your grades.
This week, you will need to do your two initial posts as always. This should finish up your materials. Ask a question early in the week. We need all those bonus points!
If you have not completed the "word-detective assignment" for this term yet, you need to do that this week.
Saturday, May 16, 2009
Catch Up Time!
Good morning everyone,
Another storm last night! Hope you all made it well through it.
We can play "catch-up time" now.
Please get your initial posts in for this week: the ones about the titles of your chapters. If you haven't completed the word-detective assignment from an earlier week, you need to get that in. This week's assignment is to try to state what one of your chapters or video lessons was about in one complete sentence.
Have a great day!
Another storm last night! Hope you all made it well through it.
We can play "catch-up time" now.
Please get your initial posts in for this week: the ones about the titles of your chapters. If you haven't completed the word-detective assignment from an earlier week, you need to get that in. This week's assignment is to try to state what one of your chapters or video lessons was about in one complete sentence.
Have a great day!
Power Back On
Most of us should have our power back on by now. We need to get back into making posts unless tonight's storm takes things out again!
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