Preachers Meeting: Course 6 Week 7 Tyler's Topics

Tuesday, March 17, 2009

Course 6 Week 7 Tyler's Topics

10 comments:

Tyler Owens said...: The title of my course is NT Survey: The Gospels. The instructor is Dr. Kevin Hester. I will be watching four DVDs a week. The title of my book is JESUS AND THE GOSPELS. The author is Craig L. Blomberg. I will be reading two chapters this week.

16. Jesus' Judean Ministry

17. Passion, Crucifixion, and Resurrection; March 17, 2009 at 5:46 PM
Tyler Owens said...: The first DVD talks about the search for the historical Jesus. It sounds like a group of liberals trying to find a way to disprove that Jesus was who He said He was. Some people probably were in it for good reasons, but some were not. They tried to compare what was known about Jesus in the Gospels and what other people had written about Him.; March 17, 2009 at 5:49 PM
Dr. Randy Carney said...: Tyler, you might find a statement made by one of the liberals and show why you disagree with it--using on of the four methods I mention in The Beginning of Week 7 post.; March 18, 2009 at 12:15 AM
sremery said...: I try to look at the people, or shows that try to give other senarios on what could have happened to Jesus in a way thats OK. What I 've noticed in watching them (I find them to be interesting) that they still leave the option of a choice. I'm sure it helps make some people not to beleive, but some decide that when they hear the Bible. I think these people are trying to convince themselves.; March 19, 2009 at 4:27 PM
Tyler Owens said...: One topic in the DVD is about the genealogies in Matthew and Luke. They are both correct, but different at the same time. There are two ways of thinking that are popular with scholars. One is that Matthew is showing lineage from Joseph's side and Luke is showing Mary's side. The other way is that Matthew is showing the legalor royal line while Luke is showing Joseph's line. Either way, Jesus comes from the line of David.; March 19, 2009 at 6:04 PM
Tyler Owens said...: Scholars also point to the time that Jesus is in the temple at twelve. They say that this was the first Bar Mitzvah. It is kind of an interesting point. What do you guys think?; March 19, 2009 at 6:05 PM
roger said...: Hey Tyler, I'm sorry but don't know anything at all about "Bar Mitzvah, but the lineage Luke gives goes all the way back to God rather the son of God. Is'nt that just like God to plan out Plan A and not having any need for a Plan B or C. Do you think God has full control of the lives of his people or do you think he just makes it work?; March 19, 2009 at 7:16 PM
Tyler Owens said...: I think that God has full control of everything. I don't think anything surprises God. He knows all things. They say that a really good chess player can see at least twenty moves deep. God can see eternally!!; March 20, 2009 at 5:58 PM
Tyler Owens said...: One thing that I read in my book that I disagree with is some scholars ideas about the resurrection of Jesus. Some say that He did not actually die on the cross, that He just passed out. Then over the weekend, He revived and His disciples let Him out. All I have to say is that these guys are misinformed. Jesus did die on the cross and was resurrected on the third day and He is coming back!; March 20, 2009 at 6:02 PM
Dr. Randy Carney said...: Tyler, I see you got your assignment for this week done!; March 21, 2009 at 10:52 PM

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Thoughts on Application

Roger gave some good thoughts on application:

"Chapter 75, titled: 'Apply Within' is a lesson in application. The writer explains why it is sometimes difficult applying a sermon to real life situations. I will list some of the reasons application is not applied to our lives.

"First it is "hard work", it is hard to find application to every situation in the congregation,

"second, is wrong assumptions, assuming the audience is able to apply any and all biblical truths is totally a wrong assumption,

"third, is fear, fear of being to deep or to simplistic in the text and failing at application, and then there is training or lack thereof,

"many preachers know the text, and the history and the order of things but are totally untrained in application. One gentleman said it this way," how can you be a good football player when you can pass the ball, or when you can kick the ball, or when you can run with the ball but you don't know the rules of the game."

Marriage Seminar

If you live in the souther Illinois area, we would like to invite you to a Couples' Marriage Enrichment Seminar on Saturday, February 27. It starts at 6:00 p.m and will run to 9:00 p.m.

After the welcome, there will be a dinner. Then there will be an opening session, followed by two breakout sessions, then a short closing.

The Keynote Speaker is Dr. Randy Carney (That's me :)!) and Roger and Janet Dutton will be speaking during the breakout sessions (That's Roger, who is commenting on this blog during this term!). Randy and Rhonda (my wife!) Carney will also have a breakout session discussing "Keys to Marital Bliss."

The Keynote Address will be on the topic of "The Way to a Successful Marriage: The Shocking and Surprising Truth."

Roger and Janet will be talking about "Hope for Restoring your marriage."

The cost is $15.00 per couple and that includes a dinner and all seminar materials. A nursery and childcare will be available. (Please indicate that you need these services when you register.) A book table with resources from Handfuls on Purpose Christian Bookstore will be available.

The seminar is for couples of all ages, ranging from newlyweds to marriage veterans!

To register, call 618-627-2228 to let the church know how may will be attending. Payment can be made at the event. (Make checks to TFBC.) For more information, call the church at 618-627-2228.

The Greatest Love

Since Valentine's Day falls on Sunday this year, I imagine there will be a ton of sermons going out on the topic of love.

Paul talked about love and respect in marriage (Ephesians 5), but he was really saying that that was an illustration of the relationship between Christ and the church.

Christ
Left Heaven to come to this earth.
He
Overcame adversity while here. He even conquered death!
He
Valued mankind so much that He gave Himself on the cross.
He desires fellowship with us. He reconciled the world to Himself, so that people could have an
Intimate realtionship with Him.
He meets all of our
Needs.
He is the supreme example of
Giving.

Do you see the word, LOVING, there? That is what He is--our LOVING Savior! Because of that, we should love one another.

Connecting with Postmoderns

This is something most preachers do every Sunday. If you have young unchurched visitors in your church, you will be trying to reach postmoderns. Even some of your church youth are more influenced by postmodernism than by their previous Sunday school teaching.

Here is my reply to one of Roger's posts:

"Roger, what tips stand out to you for commecting with postmoderns? I think the term modern referred to an age in history that related to new thoughts in science, etc. (If I am off base, refresh my memory.) Post modern refers to the time following that era. Connecting with postmoderns is something you have to do, whether you realize it or not, almost every time you preach."

I will post some of his answers here if he sees the question in time.

Preaching--Proclamation of God's Word

Preaching, by one definition, is the proclamation of God's Word. As such, a person, can take the Scriptural passage and find some of its main points and emphasize those points.

While I believe we should learn all we can about the grammatical construction of the words of Scripture, and that we should learn all we can about the historical setting for when those words were originally spoken; the nice thing about proclaiming the Word is that you can just take what the text says and emphasize it. Then the Word will not return void.

People with all different types of backgrounds have been called to preach throughout the centuries. Some very "unlearned" (as the world would put it) men have had great results by simply taking the main ideas of Scripture and simply emphasizing them. As long as we do not twist the meaning, this simply shows the amazing power of the Word of God.