Preachers Meeting: Course 7 Week 2 Tyler's Topics

Monday, April 6, 2009

Course 7 Week 2 Tyler's Topics

10 comments:

Tyler Owens said...: The title of my course is Pastoral Ministry. The instructor is Mr. Terry Forrest. I will be watching three DVDs this week. The title of my book is PASTORAL MINISTRY. The author is John MacArthur. I will be reading three chapters this week.

4. Approaching Pastoral Ministry Scripturally

5. The Character of a Pastor

6. The Call to Pastoral Ministry; April 7, 2009 at 5:55 PM
Tyler Owens said...: The DVD was about the character of a preacher. He went into great detail about not drinking alcohol. I agreed with everything he said. He also talked about the fact that we need to tell people who want to join our churches about it in detail and explain to them why it is important.; April 7, 2009 at 5:58 PM
Tyler Owens said...: The next DVD was about how we need to act. We need to have authority over our homes. The minister must not be a novice and have a good report among people. He also said to not be the kind of man who gets angry easily. I think that is very important, especially in ministry.; April 7, 2009 at 6:01 PM
sremery said...: These are some things I didnt think much about when I was first saved. Meaning the things pertaining to a covenant with a church. Does your course go into much depth on this subject?; April 8, 2009 at 10:16 AM
Dr. Randy Carney said...: Does the author go into much practical detail when it comes to recognizing "the call" to ministry?; April 8, 2009 at 4:51 PM
Tyler Owens said...: It has not said anything about the church covenant yet. I do think it is important to know what the church that you are a part of believes. As for Bro. Randy's question, he talks about knowing in your heart and surrounding yourselves with good Godly men who can help you realize your call.; April 8, 2009 at 9:01 PM
roger said...: Tyler I have to agree with your instructor on the fact that we should discuss what will be expected of them when they join the church. Many people I believe join the church thinking they will get something out of it and are not willing to give, such as tithes and offerings, use of their gifts, or giving up that bad habit that makes them a bad witness, I don't mean to sound judgmental but I think they should be told about being a representative of the church and to Jesus as well as to God. Is this what your instuctor is teaching on? God Bless!!; April 8, 2009 at 9:48 PM
sremery said...: On my experience in joining the church, my family joined back in the 80's and I didnt join with them, I can remember why but my guess is because I wasnt saved or baptized. Anyway, back in '01 when I was saved and baptized my pastor asked me about joining and explained to me the covenant. I had seen others join but I was so elated in being saved and experiencing it that looking back I didnt really think that deeply about the covenant, I just said yes. It wasnt until later that I really thought about what exactly our church stood for. I just wanted what the other people had and when I found the Source, that was all that mattered. I dont know if this post really is making any points, its just my experience with joining the church, maybe to see if I'm the only person who felt this way.; April 9, 2009 at 4:14 PM
Tyler Owens said...: The DVD that I watched was about personal holiness. The instructor talked about how we act, dress, and talk. We should not even talk about anything that may come across as un-christian like. We need to dress respectively as well. A preacher is not to be rude or hateful to anyone.; April 9, 2009 at 7:12 PM
Tyler Owens said...: I don't see anything wrong with having a class about our church covenant. I think that it would be a great benefit to the people wanting to join. They may have questions about some of the conditions in our covenant and that would be the proper time to ask. I also encourage people to talk with the pastor first. This could help clear up any misunderstanding.; April 10, 2009 at 5:56 PM

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Thoughts on Application

Roger gave some good thoughts on application:

"Chapter 75, titled: 'Apply Within' is a lesson in application. The writer explains why it is sometimes difficult applying a sermon to real life situations. I will list some of the reasons application is not applied to our lives.

"First it is "hard work", it is hard to find application to every situation in the congregation,

"second, is wrong assumptions, assuming the audience is able to apply any and all biblical truths is totally a wrong assumption,

"third, is fear, fear of being to deep or to simplistic in the text and failing at application, and then there is training or lack thereof,

"many preachers know the text, and the history and the order of things but are totally untrained in application. One gentleman said it this way," how can you be a good football player when you can pass the ball, or when you can kick the ball, or when you can run with the ball but you don't know the rules of the game."

Marriage Seminar

If you live in the souther Illinois area, we would like to invite you to a Couples' Marriage Enrichment Seminar on Saturday, February 27. It starts at 6:00 p.m and will run to 9:00 p.m.

After the welcome, there will be a dinner. Then there will be an opening session, followed by two breakout sessions, then a short closing.

The Keynote Speaker is Dr. Randy Carney (That's me :)!) and Roger and Janet Dutton will be speaking during the breakout sessions (That's Roger, who is commenting on this blog during this term!). Randy and Rhonda (my wife!) Carney will also have a breakout session discussing "Keys to Marital Bliss."

The Keynote Address will be on the topic of "The Way to a Successful Marriage: The Shocking and Surprising Truth."

Roger and Janet will be talking about "Hope for Restoring your marriage."

The cost is $15.00 per couple and that includes a dinner and all seminar materials. A nursery and childcare will be available. (Please indicate that you need these services when you register.) A book table with resources from Handfuls on Purpose Christian Bookstore will be available.

The seminar is for couples of all ages, ranging from newlyweds to marriage veterans!

To register, call 618-627-2228 to let the church know how may will be attending. Payment can be made at the event. (Make checks to TFBC.) For more information, call the church at 618-627-2228.

The Greatest Love

Since Valentine's Day falls on Sunday this year, I imagine there will be a ton of sermons going out on the topic of love.

Paul talked about love and respect in marriage (Ephesians 5), but he was really saying that that was an illustration of the relationship between Christ and the church.

Christ
Left Heaven to come to this earth.
He
Overcame adversity while here. He even conquered death!
He
Valued mankind so much that He gave Himself on the cross.
He desires fellowship with us. He reconciled the world to Himself, so that people could have an
Intimate realtionship with Him.
He meets all of our
Needs.
He is the supreme example of
Giving.

Do you see the word, LOVING, there? That is what He is--our LOVING Savior! Because of that, we should love one another.

Connecting with Postmoderns

This is something most preachers do every Sunday. If you have young unchurched visitors in your church, you will be trying to reach postmoderns. Even some of your church youth are more influenced by postmodernism than by their previous Sunday school teaching.

Here is my reply to one of Roger's posts:

"Roger, what tips stand out to you for commecting with postmoderns? I think the term modern referred to an age in history that related to new thoughts in science, etc. (If I am off base, refresh my memory.) Post modern refers to the time following that era. Connecting with postmoderns is something you have to do, whether you realize it or not, almost every time you preach."

I will post some of his answers here if he sees the question in time.

Preaching--Proclamation of God's Word

Preaching, by one definition, is the proclamation of God's Word. As such, a person, can take the Scriptural passage and find some of its main points and emphasize those points.

While I believe we should learn all we can about the grammatical construction of the words of Scripture, and that we should learn all we can about the historical setting for when those words were originally spoken; the nice thing about proclaiming the Word is that you can just take what the text says and emphasize it. Then the Word will not return void.

People with all different types of backgrounds have been called to preach throughout the centuries. Some very "unlearned" (as the world would put it) men have had great results by simply taking the main ideas of Scripture and simply emphasizing them. As long as we do not twist the meaning, this simply shows the amazing power of the Word of God.